Brexit, for once some facts.

tommie

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Do you really think attracting tax dodging multinationals, on paper, with ultra low corporation tax is the way to develop a skills base tertiary economy and responsible tax base?
also...
Varadker thought that he was being allowed membership of the Big Boys Club at the EU when he facilitated the Irish Border Charade. In fact he was just their useful idiot and they will do him No Favours....He will have to raise the Irish Corporation Tax to EU set levels which will screw inward investment to Ireland.
 

oldgroaner

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of course a premise such as "brexit requires balls" is an excellent platform for an informed discussion. I mean, we could discuss the pros and cons of having testicles. That would be very insightful. really get us into the thick of brexit. You get my drift?
Brexit requires balls does it? what happens to the female half of the population?
You really have to wonder who is paying for the services of the Three Stooges, and why they can't feed them better material?
I mean to say the fate of the nation is at stake and all some individual can equate that with is male testicles. Worse, imagine it forms that basis of an argument in favour of Brexit?
 

oldgroaner

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I've a hunch you can do better than being facetious
That isn't what he's paid to do,when like him you have no argument to support your point of view,making a nuisance of yourself is all you have left.
Pathetic, isn't it?
Surely there must be someone out there who can string a few well chosen words together to put Brexit in a favourable light?
 

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That isn't what he's paid to do,when like him you have no argument to support your point of view,making a nuisance of yourself is all you have left.
Pathetic, isn't it?
Surely there must be someone out there who can string a few well chosen words together to put Brexit in a favourable light?

Hello.

Is aggers a socialist?
 
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OxygenJames

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Brexit requires balls does it? what happens to the female half of the population?
You really have to wonder who is paying for the services of the Three Stooges, and why they can't feed them better material?
I mean to say the fate of the nation is at stake and all some individual can equate that with is male testicles. Worse, imagine it forms that basis of an argument in favour of Brexit?
It's a sad sad day when a man can't use his ******* in an attempt to win an argument.
 

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Looking forward to welcoming Google et al to Belfast when we offer the 12.5% Corporation Tax rate !!
Why would Google wish to be located in an economic backwater?. Their primary reason for their Irish location is EU access. Low corporation tax is nice, but you need to have profits before you can be taxed!.
 
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One of these is a real stooge other is Moe Howard.
There is a distinct family resemblance..
I, d leave the Stooges out of it if I were you OG..
 
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Why would Google wish to be located in an economic backwater?. Their primary reason for their Irish location is EU access. Low corporation tax is nice, but you need to have profits before you can be taxed!.
Google's location is irrelevant, unless Junker has anything to do with it.. If he had it would be in Luxembourg enjoying their advantageous tax rates... Oh hang on a minute...
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Now there's a shock. EU isnt corrupt at all.
 
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oldgroaner

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One of these is a real stooge other is Moe Howard.
There is a distinct family resemblance..
I, d leave the Stooges out of it if I were you OG..
Why? was that an attempt at humour?
I see like them you have nothing of value to contribute to the discussion, pity the leave voters to be represented by a bunch of time wasters.
Times must be very hard in the pro Brexit camp to be down to clowning around with no chance of advancing a pragmatic argument.
Where are your facts?
So far in two years you haven't scored once.
Everything promised has been proved to be lies and most of the culprits like Gove have proved to be turncoats look at the fool, going from No Deal is a good idea to No deal will be a disaster.
We are facing a complete shambles and if you voted for it you should be calling for another refererendum to cancel your mistake before it's too late.
 
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Google's location is irrelevant, unless Junker has anything to do with it.. If he had it would be in Luxembourg enjoying their advantageous tax rates... Oh hang on a minute...
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Now there's a shock. EU isnt corrupt at all.
Will they rename it Petabissen?

(Bissen = bite which is at least close to byte. Or bit.)
 
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Danidl

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So who helped bail your banana republic out when you were about to go down the toilet?

Yes thats right, the British tax payer from that `economic backwater` up North.

Any chance we could get it all paid back tho`?
Not a penny came from the North ..how could it ?. you are being massively subvented from the mainland exchequer.
As I mentioned on a few occassions , that was a commercial loan and is being paid back with INTEREST.
I will happily acknowledge that Mr Cameron was very quick in offering assistance.
 
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OxygenJames

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The fact is - people didn't vote based on the facts alone - they never do. People make decisions based on how they feel way more than how they think rationally. Ask anybody in retail.

So no matter what you think the facts of Brexit are - and no matter how much you argue for those 'facts' - in a way it doesn't matter. It's about how you feel.

Some people this is way more true than for others. Women's retail outlets tell us women use their feelings almost exclusively when buying stuff. Men tend to hold the end of the spectrum where some men base nothing on feelings and make decisions purely based on fact.

One trouble with this whole Brexit question is that this is all a prediction about the future - so it's pretty much impossible to know the facts. Oh sure you can have a good guess. But as with the emergency budget and the massive hike in unemployment 'facts' that were put out by the Chancellor pre-vote - things do not always go the way so-called intelligent people predict.

And truth is we can not predict with any certainty how things will turn out (though I am aware there are those here who strongly argue they can predict what is going to happen).

So when people ask why did the UK vote for Brexit - you have to realise people voted to a very large extent simply how they felt about it. Who back then was in possession of the facts? Literally nobody. I mean literally nobody. So people vote on how they felt. And so it came down to some simple - very simple ideas - because the simpler the idea the clearer the feeling it provokes.

Take back control. That's a massive idea that produced a strong clear feeling. Who knows how many people voted because of that alone. Now you can argue we won't have more control after Brexit and with May's deal that could well be true. But at the time - what a great idea. Control. Take back control. Democracy. Power to the people. Taking power back from unelected officials. That strikes a chord in anyone who loves freedom. Again - this is all about feelings. So those who think the world is run on 'facts' will hate this idea. But there it is.

The facts of the matter are - largely - irrelevant. Here on this thread we have a bunch of fact-loving men arguing about why the country voted a certain way - or what we should now do. It's like your wife comes home with a new dress and you're trying to argue how come she made the wrong decision. She doesn't care for your 'facts'. She likes the dress and she will never really be able to explain why. And nor can many of us Brexiters. Because when presented with the so-called 'facts' we still voted the way we did based on what you'll say is foolishness. An idea about taking back control and freedom. Silly silly ideas. But ideas that move people to great things.

James musing on a Saturday morning.

Have a nice day (and I actually do mean that Jonathan).
 

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