Tommie ,thank you for publishing that... It is an appalling feed, and no different from the fascist nonsense being peddled in red neck states in the USA. I watched a three part documentary on Netflix about the "Jewish Final solution" and how it was actively supported in eastern European countries. Be very careful what you wish for.,It is far to simple to allow the ugly demons in people to come out and debase their humanity.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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How lame is this....
We are becoming Americanised
Why was I targeted.. I voted out ffs
A lame version of the old tango ad.
I wonder who funded this.
We are becoming Americanised
Why was I targeted.. I voted out ffs
A lame version of the old tango ad.
I wonder who funded this.
Just think if we did a do over.
It would cripple us for 20 years and literally strip any dignity we have in the EU. We would pay more and be pressured into joining the Euro.
I agree May has royally ****** up the negotiations and needs to go. Because of her we have no options, unless the EU offer real and needed overhaul of its practices and regulations. A United States of Europe is the reason I voted out.
I hate to say it but brinkmanship is our last hope of getting anything out of these zealots.
But not with May on board. And hopefully not with a Tory government either.
It would cripple us for 20 years and literally strip any dignity we have in the EU. We would pay more and be pressured into joining the Euro.
I agree May has royally ****** up the negotiations and needs to go. Because of her we have no options, unless the EU offer real and needed overhaul of its practices and regulations. A United States of Europe is the reason I voted out.
I hate to say it but brinkmanship is our last hope of getting anything out of these zealots.
But not with May on board. And hopefully not with a Tory government either.
Poor you! I didn't realise things were so bad in Northern Ireland if you admire nutters like these
Once gain you demonstrate how little attention you are paying to what has been happening.
There is nothing legally wrong with organisations sending you propaganda if the organisation sends it at random and wasn't breaking the law by stealing your data to run a character profile on you
If they had been they would have sent something that you were likely to find agreeable but push an agenda at you to make your view more concrete or extreme.
And once again you demonstrate the attitude of the leave voter where they are too lazy to actually check for answers, just pose questions in a huff
"Who paid for this!" you ask
Well i know, because I looked up the people behind the video and checked who sponsors them.
Quite obviously you haven't have you?
Here is your answer.. is it Russian Money, vested interests? Hedgefunds?
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Gina Miller
She arrived in London this morning to launch 'Best for Britain' after raising £300,000 in six days through a crowdfunding page to support politicians who will push for a "real final vote" on Brexit.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Voters financed that video you object to
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Fingers, you've done it again.
Let's see now
After the lies, cheating and false demonising of the EU, do you imagine for a moment they regard us as having any dignity left?
We would actually gain a great deal of it back by admitting we were wrong and cancelling Brexit.
And we would pay more? why do you think that? the rebates we enjoyed were because we opted out of various parts of the EU's facilities and services, we didn't get the rebates because they wanted to be nice to us, did they? Why should that have changed?
If we really tried we could probably still duck out of the Euro, you are being taken in by propaganda there as only 19 of the 27 are in the Euro they are in what is known as the Eurozone.
Give us details of the practices and regulations the EU has to change,and why we didn't press for them to do so?
If you can and actually understand the way they are operated and the real reason behind them rather than the lies and distortions you wlll be the first leaver ever to come on the forum who has succeeded in doing so.
I suggest you read and digest the information here
https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/
It's a comprhensive guide to the truth about the things you have been told that are in fact blatant lies
These are not simply counterclaims, but links to the actual rules, laws and regulations involved, completely free of bias and lies.
Now let's get to your objection against a United States of Europe.
What is your problem with that? how in principle it is any different than being a member country of the United Kingdom, or do you object to that too?
And your last point about Brinkmanship and zealots
The EU is simply sticking to rules we previously were a party to agreeing
You suffer from Target Recognition. The Zealots aren't the EU but the champions of the leave campaign.
They are the ones who wanted to change things not the EU
The Zealots and brinkmanship haven't worked on getting a good deal out of the EU have they?
And now "Who you gonna call?"
I detest the Tory party, but frankly the Labour party are complicit in this tragedy , and they are not going to be able to make Brexit work for a simple reason
No power on Earth can make Brexit a success. it's impractical to set off from where we are here to try to get to a situation where we benefit from it.
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In the Express this morning
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May's deal will PASS: Strategist REVEALS why PM’s Brexit plan WILL get through the Commons
THERESA MAY’s Brexit deal will pass through the House of Commons because there is no alternative to her plans, a strategist has claimed.
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May's deal will PASS: Strategist REVEALS why PM’s Brexit plan WILL get through the Commons
THERESA MAY’s Brexit deal will pass through the House of Commons because there is no alternative to her plans, a strategist has claimed.
And the Daily Mail ran this
Fury at preening Tory saboteurs: Angry backlash against Brexiteer plotters bidding to bring down Theresa May as moderate MPs warn a coup will destroy the government, damage the economy and jeopardise Brexit altogether
Fury at preening Tory saboteurs: Angry backlash against Brexiteer plotters bidding to bring down Theresa May as moderate MPs warn a coup will destroy the government, damage the economy and jeopardise Brexit altogether
- The Prime Minister insisted her Brexit deal is in the national interest at press conference this evening
- She is facing the prospect of a Tory vote of confidence being called imminently as MPs put in more letters
Looking at all the factors involved and how fear motivates Politicians rather than duty, rather sadly I feel May will win the vote and Parliament will accept her so called agreement.
I shall be delighted to be proved wrong!
I shall be delighted to be proved wrong!
So what dreadful piece of news or announcement has the government released over the past couple of days - when the focus of attention is positively riveted onto brexit matters?
as MPs put in more letters
Don't they mean as more MPs put in letters? JRM, for example, could put in as many letters as he wishes but that should still only count as one. (Certainly hope it isn't otherwise or JRM would dragoon copywriters and quill pens to produce large numbers. And there might not then be enough geese left for Christmas.)
You really are brainwashed.
So ‘voters’ paid for this eh? Who were they? Lol. Your level of innocence for such an old boy is sweet in a way.
You’d buy anything if it said it was pro EU.
Ok. Again. You are brainwashed. You should find a traditional religion. You’d get more friends. Maybe even folks in real life would talk to you so you wouldn’t have to spam here so frequently.
Merkel was almost crying for us to reverse the decision last weekend but the facts are if we do reverse the will of the people the EU needs to modernise. Some medium gestures would definitely help. But let’s be honest this arrogant, unelected institution hasn’t shown much flexibility in the past. And it is stuck in the past.
In regard to extra money you really need to be aware of global politics. Italy is about to tank Greece style. Germany is not going to bail them out. An emergency budget will ensure the 27 will have to find the money.
Talking about budgets. In 2020 when the next EU budget is the talk is that the EU wants an army. As the union grows ever closer and becomes a United States of Europe you will see an ever growing demand for centralised money. To unelected people of course. (But you know they are really good people and just want the best for you right)
You’re so naive it’s enduring. But only to a point. Your naivety is dangerous. You are so enthralled to the EU ‘project’ you are blind to it’s very real flaws.
A European Union can be a great thing. A United States of Europe with Germany pulling the strings will lead to disaster.
No fingers, the problem here is that you are quite simply incapable of rational thought, you haven't bothered to check the links I gave you have you?
Hence this juvenile attempt at a put down
Trying to be"clever" makes you look a fool.
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I can only think you haven't been paying attention, there is no hope, nor ever was, of brinkmanship achieving anything better.
The departure phase of the negotiations is over. The other 27 EU member countries gave the Commission the authority to negotiate it and they are honouring that.
From the outset in 2016 it was made clear by the Commission that no deal could be better than membership, so we knew an unsatisfactory outcome was inevitable, even before the referendum vote.
Ergo, we can stay in and enjoy the membership benefits, or leave and suffer any consequences.
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You deserve a prize so here it is - you'll look great drinking from that while you're wearing your big shoes and that revolving bow-tie though you may have to remove your big, red nose!
Tom
Not elected? You mean the elections next year are just a figment of 500 million peoples imagination? Farage just walked in the door and sat down did he?
Italy is not Greece. They are the third largest economy of the Euro zone and privately held savings cover the national debt. They have massive corruption, perhaps the new government will tackle that.
But they aren't. They can't. It isn't great yet, there are problems but the UK running away and putting their head in the sand isn't going to stop those problems being solved eventually, these things take time. Perhaps it will be easier without the UK? But we don't know that yet do we...
Can you really be so deluded as to believe this rubbish?
Once again your ignorance if amazing
You make crass statements that unelected people run the EU, based on what? you have never bothered to look at the way is it organised because you are unwilling to bother, preferring to repeat lies you've read in some of our so called free press.
Italy is about to "Tank out" is it? and how do you know? read it somewhere have you? and prefer to believe it as justification for leaving the EU?
How stupid is that?
And the present situation will only get out of hand if the sort on right wing nut jobs we have rooting for a hard Brexit get into power, not that you are likely to understand what is actually going on
And Greece? The Greek economy has started to grow again ‑ it grew 0.8% in the second quarter, but this appears to have been driven by families moving forward the purchase of capital goods before the shutdown of the banking sector. Unemployment, which peaked at over 26%, has started to slowly fall. Bank deposits appeared to have stabilised after declining for a year.
You must be a bit dim if you imagine that a centralised currency is a bad thing, since America was formed from nine separate nations should they have refused to accept the dollar?
And of all the stupid things to say, that last paragraph tops the lot
If you didn't want this
"A European Union can be a great thing. A United States of Europe with Germany pulling the strings will lead to disaster."
Were you out of your mind to voting leave the EU where we had at least as much influence as Germany, and give what you believe to be complete control to them?
That is plain stupid
And by the way Spamming is what you are doing, no facts, just second hand right wing quotes that we have all heard before
This thread is entitled Brexit for once some facts:
So far like all other leave fans so far you haven't managed to produce a single one, so why don't you give that a go?
Something you have actually checked for veracity and understand?
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UKIP mass rally this morning against May' plan
It seems about four turned up, not quite the mass numbers of Farages last effort
UKIP is clearly a farce to be reckoned without!
It seems about four turned up, not quite the mass numbers of Farages last effort
UKIP is clearly a farce to be reckoned without!
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One for the leave voters to ponder
Is this what you voted for?
Is this what you voted for?