Cynics might add, why do we need any more of them?The Good news First
We are the only country in the World to have a Suicide Minister
The Bad news
We don't know what the job description entails
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Fred Karno's army could still find plenty of that kind of talent in Westminster.
Tom
from the Daily Mail: 'May on the brink as ministers threaten to QUIT over plan that could keep UK in EU customs union indefinitely'.
They are talking about Andrea Leadsom and Esther McVey leaving soon.
Apparently, businesses don't mind that brexiteers leave the cabinet, the Pound rises on the threat.
They are talking about Andrea Leadsom and Esther McVey leaving soon.
Apparently, businesses don't mind that brexiteers leave the cabinet, the Pound rises on the threat.
Turkey is buying it as well. They are also buying F35s which has upset the Americans since it will enable data on defending against the F35, handy for Russia.
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Bad newsThe Good news First
We are the only country in the World to have a Suicide Minister
The Bad news
We don't know what the job description entails
We are the only country in the World to NEED a Suicide Minister.
Not bad if his function is to commit ritual Harakiri on behalf of us all when the country fails or gets shamed.
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It’s not all bad news today. Judges are to get a £60000 / year pay rise. See, the end of austerity is in sight and that’s one less group of people who will need to utilise food banks.
Thought for the day
""The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."
Bertrand Russell[/QUOTE]
How much doubt have you got that we should cancel Brexit (i'm going to say none)
Oh the irony........pmsl
""The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."
Bertrand Russell[/QUOTE]
How much doubt have you got that we should cancel Brexit (i'm going to say none)
Oh the irony........pmsl
I believe this government, (all of them), should meet a similar end to the man who said this:
'But which race? Does there exist a German race? Has it ever existed? Will it ever exist? Reality, myth, or hoax of the theorists? Ah well, we respond, a Germanic race does not exist. Various movements. Curiosity. Stupor. We repeat. Does not exist. We don't say so. Scientists say so. Hitler says so.
Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today. Amusingly enough, not one of those who have proclaimed the "nobility" of the Teutonic race was himself a Teuton. Gobineau was a Frenchman, Chamberlain, an Englishman; Woltmann, a Jew; Lapouge, another Frenchman.
Fascism should rightly be called corporatism as it is a merger of state and corporate power.
Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived in their relation to the State.
Yes, madam, I am finished. My star has fallen. I work and I try, yet know that all is but a farce.... I await the end of the tragedy and – strangely detached from everything – I do not feel any more an actor. I feel I am the last of spectators.
Fascism is not an article for export.
It's good to trust others but, not to do so is much better.
It is the State which educates its citizens in civic virtue, gives them a consciousness of their mission and welds them into unity.'
That man was the man who so inspired Mr A Hitler so greatly that he decided to attempt to emulate him…….we know the rest of that story but for those unfamiliar with the words above, the orator was 'Il Duce', loved by his countrymen (to begin with!) aka Benito Mussolini.
I love the part in bold print. His perception was spot-on!
Tom
'But which race? Does there exist a German race? Has it ever existed? Will it ever exist? Reality, myth, or hoax of the theorists? Ah well, we respond, a Germanic race does not exist. Various movements. Curiosity. Stupor. We repeat. Does not exist. We don't say so. Scientists say so. Hitler says so.
Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today. Amusingly enough, not one of those who have proclaimed the "nobility" of the Teutonic race was himself a Teuton. Gobineau was a Frenchman, Chamberlain, an Englishman; Woltmann, a Jew; Lapouge, another Frenchman.
Fascism should rightly be called corporatism as it is a merger of state and corporate power.
Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived in their relation to the State.
Yes, madam, I am finished. My star has fallen. I work and I try, yet know that all is but a farce.... I await the end of the tragedy and – strangely detached from everything – I do not feel any more an actor. I feel I am the last of spectators.
Fascism is not an article for export.
It's good to trust others but, not to do so is much better.
It is the State which educates its citizens in civic virtue, gives them a consciousness of their mission and welds them into unity.'
That man was the man who so inspired Mr A Hitler so greatly that he decided to attempt to emulate him…….we know the rest of that story but for those unfamiliar with the words above, the orator was 'Il Duce', loved by his countrymen (to begin with!) aka Benito Mussolini.
I love the part in bold print. His perception was spot-on!
Tom
Where the referendum is concerned Bertrand got it wrong. All 33 million on both sides are certain of themselves, only the 25,359 who entered blank or invalid slips apparently full of doubts.
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Regarding the Irish Border “problem” I can’t see there ever being a hard border between Northern & Southern Ireland. Whichever deal is reached, WTO, Customs Union or Single Market, no one will ever impose a hard border. No one, except the EU are demanding it.
Say for example, no deal is reach and the U.K. exit the EU on WTO terms. Who is going to enforce an Irish border? No one, so why are we bickering over it with the EU?
The whole situation is a complete shambles.
Say for example, no deal is reach and the U.K. exit the EU on WTO terms. Who is going to enforce an Irish border? No one, so why are we bickering over it with the EU?
The whole situation is a complete shambles.
it's not possible in this case to treat Northern Ireland with the same customs regime as for example England, Scotland or Wales.
If, for example, the UK impose 42% tariff on EU cheese (that the WTO), Irish cheddar can be smuggled to Belfast and put on a UK truck to go back to Dublin then Liverpool, no tariff. HMRC would be out of pocket big time.
Of course the above scenario, the smuggling of cheese or any other product, would need to take place on a massive scale to make any significant impact on the HMRC takings. To operate on such a massive scale, it would rely on a EU nation, in this case Ireland‘s government, to be complicit in the fraud. If Ireland’s government chose to take this fraudulent route, they could be repaid, with interest, for their actions. So I still don’t see what the Irish Border problem is.
Woosh.....according to May we are not staying in the CUSTOMS UNION indefinitely but we are permanently signing up to a new CUSTOMS ARRANGEMENT....BRINO !!!!
KudosDave
Start the thread from the beginning ......see you in 3 weeks
HMRC admitted that they are losing £1.5 billion on vat fraud on e-bay alone,they dont seem in much of a hurry to do something about it...so a bit of duty on cheese????
KudosDave
About £150-£200 on the retail price of every chinese e-bike due to import tariffs,they could be deleted if May gets the right deal...unlikely!!!
This isn't a cycling web site and it's in this forum with this heading:
The Charging Post
A place to recharge your batteries, meet new friends and talk about things not specifically related to electric bikes.
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Theresa May has this coming weekend to change her Brexit plans or suffer a series of walkouts from her Cabinet.
Leave-supporting ministers Andrea Leadsom, Penny Mordaunt, and Esther McVey are believed to be ready to quit the Cabinet if May agrees to a backstop which keeps the UK in the customs union indefinitely.
Looks like crunch time is looming....I say let them resign...they are part of the Tory bastards who caused Cameron to start this foolhardy referendum in the first place.
Maybe time for May to have a clearout of the Moggledites and get some sense back into the Tories. They would lose any leadership challenge,there are not enough of them.
If May puts any deal to parliament that requires leaving the customs union she will lose the vote anyway. Unless I have got my arithmetic wrong if she agrees to stay in a fudged version of the customs union she can rely on the support of Labour+Tory remainers(especially if she whips the vote)+DUP+SNP which must win the vote and Greece-Smug and Co can retire to middle England to look after their estates and dream about fox hunting.
KudosDave
Leave-supporting ministers Andrea Leadsom, Penny Mordaunt, and Esther McVey are believed to be ready to quit the Cabinet if May agrees to a backstop which keeps the UK in the customs union indefinitely.
Looks like crunch time is looming....I say let them resign...they are part of the Tory bastards who caused Cameron to start this foolhardy referendum in the first place.
Maybe time for May to have a clearout of the Moggledites and get some sense back into the Tories. They would lose any leadership challenge,there are not enough of them.
If May puts any deal to parliament that requires leaving the customs union she will lose the vote anyway. Unless I have got my arithmetic wrong if she agrees to stay in a fudged version of the customs union she can rely on the support of Labour+Tory remainers(especially if she whips the vote)+DUP+SNP which must win the vote and Greece-Smug and Co can retire to middle England to look after their estates and dream about fox hunting.
KudosDave