Brexit, for once some facts.

gray198

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What would the cost be to provide all suitable homes with solar panels and a battery to give a continual availability of electricity?

Houses with solar can't use all they generate and sell the surplus to the grid.

This can't be more expensive the a nuclear power station, just looks ugly.

A better option in my opinion, any thoughts?
Can't understand why new houses and factory building's are not made to have solar panels fitted when being built. I know it may not be worthwhile in some circumstances but generally I would think it cheaper than retrofitting.
 
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The huge cost of Brexit continues and grows. The sooner we abandon that ill-based notion, the better.

We aren't just damaging ourselves, we are damaging the world economy.
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the water will have to get a great deal hotter before this particular bunch of (it must be said not very sentient) frogs realise they're in a saucepan..
 
the water will have to get a great deal hotter before this particular bunch of (it must be said not very sentient) frogs realise they're in a saucepan..
I can't believe some of the things I've been reading. Some people really do not seem to understand what's going on.

More than once I've been told "we've not even left the EU yet...so can these negative things that are happening be anything to do with Brexit?"

Its unbelievable, that they put this to the public vote.
 

Kudoscycles

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Why dont we fund these projects ourselves,there are billions of pounds sitting in savers bank accounts earning nil interest,soon to be minus interest.
If the government launched a bond with some interest and guaranteed safe money I am sure they would collect enough to fund these big projects.
Maybe offering nil inheritance tax as an incentive.
This could also fund HS2.except I think that is a waste of money.
I suppose it will put pressure on the banks to start paying some interest to keep their balance sheets happy,a bonus????
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Kudoscycles

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The Bank of England (BoE) has voted to cut interest rated to a record 0.25%. This is the first rate cut in seven years.

The Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) has voted to:


• Cut interest rates to 0.25%

• Purchase £10 billion of corporate bonds

• Purchase £60 billion of government debt

• The above increases to £435 billion being injected into the economy through an asset purchase programme

The BoE has also slashed its growth forecasts for 2017, from 2.3% to 0.8%.

Sterling plummeted against its major peers following the announcement, falling 1% against the US dollar. It is still fluctuating at time of writing.
Just dont see the point,it sends out all the wrong signals.
The economy was on the mend before Brexit,so we have spent all this money to carry on with this stupid exit scheme,these sums make the £8 billion we spent with the EU seem small beer.
Why doesnt someone use a bit of commensense and admit that most of us had no idea of the implications of Brexit,I dont think anyone really understood what we were voting for and even now we dont have a plan...this BoE injection is like sticking a plaster on a broken leg which is due to be amputated.
Wake up Mrs May,be brave and admit that Brexit was a big mistake,dream up a new manifesto and go to the country to rid ourselves of the ghost of Cameron,who clearly messed up.
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Just dont see the point,it sends out all the wrong signals.
The economy was on the mend before Brexit,so we have spent all this money to carry on with this stupid exit scheme,these sums make the £8 billion we spent with the EU seem small beer.
Even worse is that it's now reported that our productivity has dropped further to a previously unknown low. And to make matters even worse still, it's said that the new reduction in interest rates will reduce productivity still further.

An illustration given of our present productivity is that an American, German or French worker, using the same amount of materials and earning the same money can produce what our full time worker can but take every Friday off.

So much for "Britain will succeed with Brexit".
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Kudoscycles

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Even worse is that it's now reported that our productivity has dropped further to a previously unknown low. And to make matters even worse still, it's said that the new reduction in interest rates will reduce productivity still further.

An illustration given of our present productivity is that an American, German or French worker, using the same amount of materials and earning the same money can produce what our full time worker can but take every Friday off.

So much for "Britain will succeed with Brexit".
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Thats useful about the French because of Saints days they seem to have Thursday and Friday off every week,hehe
KudosDave
 

oldgroaner

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Sitrep time
  1. Encouraging news from the Bank of England reducing the interest rate and printing confetti money.(Which the Banks will promptly confiscate as they did last time
  2. Best part of a million immigrants (not including those from the EU) lost without a trace.
  3. Royal Navy on holiday while oars being fitted
  4. Country heading for recession and nobody cares, waiting anxiously for news of Kim Kardashians new boob job.
  5. UKIP seeking a new leader, job there for Cameron perhaps?
  6. Chinese are upset because their plan to cancel the deterrent power of Trident has been rumbled as they intended to use Hinckley point to blow us up and blame the French
  7. Terrorism will from this point on be reported as a Mental Health issue so that problem is sorted.
  8. Illegal immigrants are now being held in camps intended to improve their concentration, or something like that, and provided with personal and private rooms.
  9. The government is pressing ahead with it's plan to formulate a question it can ask the EU without committing itself in any way to Brexit (whatever that can be made to mean that will please everybody,) and to this end the task force of Monkeys previously working on a rewrite of the entire Works of Shakespeare have been directed to cease working on "A midsummers nights Dream" to refine the plot cover a "Midsummer night's Nightmare: AKA Brexit"
  10. Boris Johnson is in charge , "The Secret Intelligence service (MI6) and the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) are now his responsibility. We can all sleep more soundly in our beds
 

oldgroaner

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Even worse is that it's now reported that our productivity has dropped further to a previously unknown low. And to make matters even worse still, it's said that the new reduction in interest rates will reduce productivity still further.

An illustration given of our present productivity is that an American, German or French worker, using the same amount of materials and earning the same money can produce what our full time worker can but take every Friday off.

So much for "Britain will succeed with Brexit".
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This is not such bad news as it seems as we only actually lose a morning's production, the Friday afternoon cars were rubbish anyway, I remember having a couple of fords of that kind!:eek:
 

oldgroaner

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"
Brits DON'T regret Brexit vote as polls indicate majority supports leaving EU
VOTERS do not regret their decision to withdraw from the EU, according to a new poll.
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Asked whether Britain "was right or wrong to leave the European Union" 46 per cent of responders confirmed the desire to exit.

A total of 42 per cent did not think the outcome of the vote was correct while 12 per cent did not have an opinion either way."

Interesting Maths as usual from the Daily Excess!
 
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I reckon the BoE's move is part of Mrs May's strategy that she'll pull all the stops to make brexit a success. She will wait until the majority comes to realize that the BoE can't stop the recession and brexit is a bad idea, then announce that she is going to call the big 50.
 

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Like many other long term Pedelec Forum readers I suspect, I keep up to date on here via the recent posts search facility.

For many months now, this has been dominated by Brexit posts.

Although this section is indeed entitled "off topic", would it not be sensible for this particular subject to have a line drawn underneath it now ?

Most of these otherwise excellent specialist subject forums ban the discussion of politics unless particularly relevant to a core subject.

There must be innumerable political fora available where this subject could be discussed with a much wider interested audience of participants.
 

oldgroaner

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Like many other long term Pedelec Forum readers I suspect, I keep up to date on here via the recent posts search facility.

For many months now, this has been dominated by Brexit posts.

Although this section is indeed entitled "off topic", would it not be sensible for this particular subject to have a line drawn underneath it now ?

Most of these otherwise excellent specialist subject forums ban the discussion of politics unless particularly relevant to a core subject.

There must be innumerable political fora available where this subject could be discussed with a much wider interested audience of participants.

You may not have noticed but there are other threads than this one available for comment.
This one is simply the best supported.
And what pray is wrong with that?
 
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tillson

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Like many other long term Pedelec Forum readers I suspect, I keep up to date on here via the recent posts search facility.

For many months now, this has been dominated by Brexit posts.

Although this section is indeed entitled "off topic", would it not be sensible for this particular subject to have a line drawn underneath it now ?

Most of these otherwise excellent specialist subject forums ban the discussion of politics unless particularly relevant to a core subject.

There must be innumerable political fora available where this subject could be discussed with a much wider interested audience of participants.

I can't see what harm the continuation of this thread is doing. If it's annoying, can you filter it out of the recent posts search facility? I never use that, so don't know.
 
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Most of these otherwise excellent specialist subject forums ban the discussion of politics unless particularly relevant to a core subject.
I'd also argue that Brexit is very relevant to eBikes, it effects lots of things in the supply chain, which could / will have a direct influence on eBikes over the next 12/18 months.

and its not politics really - its economics.
 

oldgroaner

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I can't see what harm the continuation of this thread is doing. If it's annoying, can you filter it out of the recent posts search facility? I never use that, so don't know.
And there have been moments of great humour, the greatest having been from your goodself Tillson, lets hope there will be many more!
 
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Think I agree with Homer. This thrrad has given all the noisy stayers a vehicle to pedal their negativity, which has caused all problems we,ve recently witnessed, not Brexit. From blaming things on Brexit which were decided months ago, drop in pound , its all a consequence of threads and such like this spreading the gloom and dividing country.
The fact that its generally the stayers who have continued on here says something as well.
Time to close thread.
 

oldgroaner

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Think I agree with Homer. This thrrad has given all the noisy stayers a vehicle to pedal their negativity, which has caused all problems we,ve recently witnessed, not Brexit. From blaming things on Brexit which were decided months ago, drop in pound , its all a consequence of threads and such like this spreading the gloom and dividing country.
The fact that its generally the stayers who have continued on here says something as well.
Time to close thread.
Off you go then Flud ( you've left more times than Farage has resigned, haven't you?)
"From blaming things on Brexit which were decided months ago, drop in pound , its all a consequence of threads and such like this spreading the gloom and dividing country."
That would look good painted on the side of a large single decker bus!
So we are to blame are we? ROFLMAO
Most flattering comment so far!
 
Think I agree with Homer. This thrrad has given all the noisy stayers a vehicle to pedal their negativity, which has caused all problems we,ve recently witnessed, not Brexit. From blaming things on Brexit which were decided months ago, drop in pound , its all a consequence of threads and such like this spreading the gloom and dividing country.
The fact that its generally the stayers who have continued on here says something as well.
Time to close thread.
You are seriously suggesting that the drop in the £ and the € against every other major world currency since Brexit is not because of Brexit?
 

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