Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldtom]

For those who still think the BBC is a non-partisan news provider or possibly believe it to be a left-wing organ, fully supportive of Britain's socialist party, there is a study published by The Canary, quite a good source of material not provided by the BBC or Sky.

The study found, unsurprisingly, that the BBC coverage of the attempted coup by Blairites in the Labour party gave far more air time to the 'Anyone but Corbyn' group of plotters than to the party leader himself or his allies. That is perfectly in keeping with the level of reporting on politics previously demonstrated by the BBC.

Only those wearing political blinkers can have failed to notice the aggressive tone and difficult questions with interrupted replies every time a Labour MP is interviewed, particularly by the likes of Marr, Robinson and the ambitious London area evening news anchors. Conversely, tory MPs, business chiefs, HS2 and Heathrow expansion proponents are allowed an easy ride with plenty of time to answer as they have been advised by their media coach.

It's all about control and Joseph Goebbels would be very proud of the way BBC spokespersons just deny, deny, deny everything they are accused of when they are caught out.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/29/damning-evidence-just-came-light-exposes-bbcs-role-labour-coup/

Tom

 

[oldgroaner]

Ford cars are rubbish.

Doesn't a weak pound make Ford's wage bill less? Isn't that good or aren't we mentioning good today?

Well at least you are, you got it in for a commendable two shows!
As to them being rubbish I had two company Sierras, one diesel, one petrol and did over 100, 000 miles in each with no problems other than tyres, the two Modeos again over 100, 000 miles each with only tyres and windscreen replacements.plus of course Disks and pads.
The only downside to them was they were poor on economy.
After that I had a Toyota Avensis 2 litre petrol which was fragile. And two Skoda Octavia deisels, the first did 200,000 miles the second is now on 166,000, both have had replacement dual mass flywheels around the 100,000 miles marks, otherwise just the usual consumables.

 

[oldgroaner]

I see Channel 4 News have employed "jailbird" Andy Coulson as a roving reporter. How and why do these people keep on re-surfacing.

Because no one has the sense to nail the lid down ?

 

[flecc]

Ford cars are rubbish.

Fiesta's good, generally reckoned best in class and the top seller in class for eight years running. I had the opportunity to try a latest version and felt the reputation justified.

Doesn't a weak pound make Ford's wage bill less? Isn't that good or aren't we mentioning good today?

Not as less as shutting the factory though!

Seriously, their two engine assembly plants here are using lots of components imported from the mainland EU, so those are more expensive now. The plants are beginning to look a bit silly now, shipping parts from Germany, assembling the engines here and then shipping them all back to put them into the cars and vans.
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[tillson]

Well at least you are, you got it in for a commendable two shows!
As to them being rubbish I had two company Sierras, one diesel, one petrol and did over 100, 000 miles in each with no problems other than tyres, the two Modeos again over 100, 000 miles each with only tyres and windscreen replacements.plus of course Disks and pads.
The only downside to them was they were poor on economy.
After that I had a Toyota Avensis 2 litre petrol which was fragile. And two Skoda Octavia deisels, the first did 200,000 miles the second is now on 166,000, both have had replacement dual mass flywheels around the 100,000 miles marks, otherwise just the usual consumables.

I've had two Fords. The first was my first car, an Escort Mk2 1.3 cross-flow (Kent Engine?). The best thing about it was the engine, tough and loads of cheap tuning bits. In fairness that wasn't a half bad car. Next I had another Escort, a Mk2 RS2000. That had a Pinto engine which I never really rated. The car wasn't that good either. Since then I've always had VWs (Mk2 16V GTI was the best car I've ever owned), with my Land Rover Defender coming in 2nd. I had a Caterham R300 (British) for a few years, which was mental. I've currently got a Subaru Forester which is a really hardy workhorse. But as I say, I've slways had a VW Golf as well for the past 25 years or so.

Present Fords seem a bit weird. A colleague gave me a lift in her Fiesta. It was like sitting in a Flash Gordon spaceship. All a bit strange and I didn't like it.

 

[oldgroaner]

I've had two Fords. The first was my first car, an Escort Mk2 1.3 cross-flow (Kent Engine?). The best thing about it was the engine, tough and loads of cheap tuning bits. In fairness that wasn't a half bad car. Next I had another Escort, a Mk2 RS2000. That had a Pinto engine which I never really rated. The car wasn't that good either. Since then I've always had VWs (Mk2 16V GTI was the best car I've ever owned), with my Land Rover Defender coming in 2nd. I had a Caterham R300 (British) for a few years, which was mental. I've currently got a Subaru Forester which is a really hardy workhorse. But as I say, I've slways had a VW Golf as well for the past 25 years or so.

Present Fords seem a bit weird. A colleague gave me a lift in her Fiesta. It was like sitting in a Flash Gordon spaceship. All a bit strange and I didn't like it.

I remember having a Mk4 Cortina 2 litre GT with Weber carb, the joke was it could pass anything but a filling station, and if you floored the throttle there was a strong smell of petrol and the fuel consumption doubled!
If I remember rightly the camshaft wore rather badly.
However the worst Ford was a 1700 V four Corsair, which handled like a fast jelly, you could get seasick on a bumpy road!
And incredibly the starter ring actually detached from the flywheel, necessitating a visit to the scrapyard to get another complete flywheel and ring gear.

 

[flecc]

Present Fords seem a bit weird. A colleague gave me a lift in her Fiesta. It was like sitting in a Flash Gordon spaceship. All a bit strange and I didn't like it.

Yes, they are a bit "modern", but lots are going that way. You really wouldn't like a Nissan Leaf Tekna then!
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[derf]

Yes, they are a bit "modern", but lots are going that way. You really wouldn't like a Nissan Leaf Tekna then!
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30 kw/h, realistic 100 mile range, only £26000 including the battery (ie no lease like Renault) makes it to me a genuine alternative to internal combustion, but I wonder how long the guarantee on the battery is (and its replacement cost)?

 

[(NoLongerRegistered#15675)]

My mondeo diesel one of best cars I,ve ever had. Handles great, goes well..its actually quite fast..and I never get under 48 mpg with it. Coming upto 90k ( had 18 k on it when I bought it) had tyres and an alternator. Fantastic car. Way better than 5 series before it...which cost a fortune, didn't handle as well ( despite what all mags say) Mondeo def better drivers car..I,ve had sports cars that didn't handle as well.

 

[oldgroaner]

"
Most of the 35 workers arrested in a controversial immigration sting at the Byron hamburger chain have been removed from the UK.

The Home Office confirmed that 25 of those arrested in the operation on 4 July on suspicion of immigration offences “have now left the UK, either voluntarily departed or been removed”. It said the rest were “having their cases progressed by Immigration Enforcement”.

Earlier this week the Home Office revealed that people from Brazil, Nepal, Egypt and Albania were among the 35 rounded up in the raid."

Another Brexit lie exposed.
"What happened to the EU won't let us deport immigrants?"
Is there a single statement the campaign made that hasn't been proven a lie?
Funny how suddenly when it needs to look tough the Government realises it has more powers than it admitted to the public!

 

[oldtom]

The most Anglo Saxon part of the country is Yorkshire and the Humber, according to a study of the UK's ethnic history.

Ee lad always said then Southerners were furrin tha nose!
Joking aside I am a little surprised as this part of the country was known as the "Danegeld" and locally we assumed that would mean Danish Roots.
Just goes to show that local history can be wrong!


Evidently, this monster was from Yorkshire



Tom

 

[flecc]

30 kw/h, realistic 100 mile range, only £26000 including the battery (ie no lease like Renault) makes it to me a genuine alternative to internal combustion, but I wonder how long the guarantee on the battery is (and its replacement cost)?

The battery warranty is 8 years on the 30 kWh, 5 years on the 24 kWh. Replacement cost is a bit vague but the difference in car purchase prices with and without is in the region of £5k to £6k. I suspect it would actually be more when buying separately. Sadly they are still old tech laminated battery cells, they really need to catch up and use the latest 18650s and variants like Tesla, but it would probably need the Leaf body to be redesigned a bit.

Start price of the Tekna with 30kWh battery currently £27,230.
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[derf]

My mondeo diesel one of best cars I,ve ever had. Handles great, goes well..its actually quite fast..and I never get under 48 mpg with it. Coming upto 90k ( had 18 k on it when I bought it) had tyres and an alternator. Fantastic car. Way better than 5 series before it...which cost a fortune, didn't handle as well ( despite what all mags say) Mondeo def better drivers car..I,ve had sports cars that didn't handle as well.

By extreme comparison i have a berkeley 328, a microcar from 1955 with a 328cc two stroke twin from an even older bike called an excelsior talisman.it was also known as a b65 because top speed was 65mph. But it does sound like a large chainsaw when one opens it up.

 

[flecc]

By extreme comparison i have a berkeley 328, a microcar from 1955 with a 328cc two stroke twin from an even older bike called an excelsior talisman.it was also known as a b65 because top speed was 65mph. But it does sound like a large chainsaw when one opens it up.

In the early 1950s my first motorbike at 16 was an Excelsior Talisman Twin 250.
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[(NoLongerRegistered#15675)]

By extreme comparison i have a berkeley 328, a microcar from 1955 with a 328cc two stroke twin from an even older bike called an excelsior talisman.it was also known as a b65 because top speed was 65mph. But it does sound like a large chainsaw when one opens it up.

My Mondeo carries all my windsurf kit ( two boards 6 sails) in back and launches / recovers daughter's 1.3 tonne ski boat...( not simultaneously) think the microcar might struggle a bit on both those ! Great things tho..always fancied a Meschersmidt...bet you cant buy one now..

 

[oldgroaner]

Here is an example of the Moral stance this Conservative Government has.
"
Revealed: the High Street names that used benefits claimants as free labour
Government fought in the courts for four years to keep the companies' identities a secret, saying it would damage their 'commercial interests'"

"Well-known high street firms were among more than 500 organisations who used the free labour of welfare claimants, after they were forced to take unpaid work under rules brought in by David Cameron's Coalition Government."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/benefits-department-for-work-and-pensions-mandatory-work-activity-government-major-companies-free-a7163646.html

They reinvented Slavery!

And here is a list of the Companies who benefited.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/348484/response/845583/attach/3/326 2012 Info.pdf
They fought against what was going on being revealed.
This is the Government that is supposed to represent the interests of the public?

 

[flecc]

..always fancied a Meschersmidt...bet you cant buy one now..

You can if you have circa £30,000:

Messerschmit bubble car for sale
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[tillson]

The battery warranty is 8 years on the 30 kWh, 5 years on the 24 kWh. Replacement cost is a bit vague but the difference in car purchase prices with and without is in the region of £5k to £6k. I suspect it would actualy be more when buying separately. Sadly they are still old tech laminated battery cells, they really need to catch up and use the latest 18650s and variants like Tesla, but it would probably need the Leaf body to be redesigned a bit.

Start price of the Tekna with 30kWh battery currently £27,230.
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We will definitely need that new power station in Somerset if they catch on. Hang on a minute, we aren't getting it now are we?

I bet the government wishes they'd laid on more university courses in nuclear physics and engineering instead of sports science and telly.

 

[flecc]

We will definitely need that new power station in Somerset if they catch on. Hang on a minute, we aren't getting it now are we?

I bet the government wishes they'd laid on more university courses in nuclear physics and engineering instead of sports science and telly.

We need the suitably motivated students though, 70% of university entrants study for arts degrees, and a minority of the remainder are engaged in the useful subjects we most need.

I think the failure in direction probably starts in the schools.
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[trex]

I blame the abolition of grammar schools by successive governments since the 70s