Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Lets see now
"Speaking on his Fox News segment Swampwatch, Mr Hilton, who served as director of strategy for David Cameron said: “It wouldn’t be a proper swamp without a vast EU lobbying industry."

Oh boy! you have to be kidding me! there are stories galore of the very same thing going on in this country. do try to make sensible claims

And this too

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-boom-time-for-britains-lobbyists-theresa-may-westminster-communications/
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The first opportunity for lobbyists is the government’s giant Repeal Bill, which parliament will begin debating Thursday. The legislation is the beginning of an effort that will make up a sizable bulk of the government’s work over the coming two years, ahead of Britain’s exit from the EU in March 2019.

The bill will copy all EU legislation into British law to ensure a smooth transition. And then — after three decades in which London outsourced to Brussels everything from housing regulations to labor codes to environmental controls — Westminster will be able to amend or discard whatever bits it wants.

Brexit has already shaken up British electoral politics. The effects of last year’s referendum vote, which brought down a popular prime minister, continue to reverberate. The snap election in June intended to end the political uncertainty only made it worse, depriving the Tories of their majority and badly weakening May.

Now Brexit is set to bring structural and cultural changes to how politics is done. As Britain potentially rethinks every law on its books and seeks to strike dozens of trade deals, there will be much more to fight over in Westminster. The stakes for domestic and foreign interests — and with them the size of lobbying budgets — are only going to rise.

So you are due to some congratulations it seems, your Brexit Vote has achieved a vast increase of lobbying in this country!

Sorry but that is hilarious, no doubt the "Goodness Flowing" from Brexit!
 

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https://euobserver.com/institutional/141663
The EU has a massive corruption problem. Its endemic and not getting better.
Accepted this link is not EU directly but involves most countries within EU and others outside. From MEPs claiming on average 48000 euro per annum (for expenses, without any requirement for receipts etc etc), (Transparency International are saying this is not acceptable) to mayors working in unison with immobilisers buying /selling land and generally the whole ethos within EU revolving around "favours" its corrupt to the core.
No different to the various fiddles that allow cost to be offset against tax here.
 
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Now this is hilarious!
"https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-europe-britain-moves-big-into-brussels/
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Britain is leaving Europe, but it’s hardly leaving Brussels.

The U.K.’s diplomatic footprint in the European capital — currently hidden behind a congested Brussels roundabout, stretched above a Lloyds pharmacy and a cheap Belgian brasserie — will be bigger than it ever was. Come March 29 of next year, the U.K. Representation to the European Union will be the crown jewel of Britain’s global diplomatic network, say senior Whitehall officials, ministers and diplomats.
The British push to beef up its Brussels presence reflects anxiety in London about being left out of the loop on EU matters of huge importance to the U.K. once its officials and politicians lose their automatic seats at the institution’s tables.

“There are endless meetings about what’s going to happen as a third country mission,” said one senior U.K. official familiar with the ongoing discussions about the future of what’s known as UKRep. “It’s quite high-level stuff but there’s no doubt it’s going to have to become very, very substantial. There’s no doubt it will have to get larger — a lot larger.”

Er what happened to a "Clean Break", "Cutting red tape" etc,etc.

Every day in every way
Brexit looks a great deal "Dafter"
 
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Or is it perhaps just some sort of personal dispute with him?
Could be, but fostering interest in him could be very damaging to leave in general. It's bad enough if he has financed much of leave propaganda but even worse if he is simply a cover for an unnamed donor. (The report "suggests" he simply does not have enough cash to bank roll leave and keep his insurance company (Eldon) solvent. His claim of cash from diamond mines is a none starter. (It hasn't produced any significant amount of diamonds in years)
Where has cash come from? He basically refused to offer any explanation and walked off to bar.
We should all be MPs or even better MEPs. What a fecking mess.
 

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Could be, but fostering interest in him could be very damaging to leave in general. It's bad enough if he has financed much of leave propaganda but even worse if he is simply a cover for an unnamed donor. (The report "suggests" he simply does not have enough cash to bank roll leave and keep his insurance company (Eldon) solvent. His claim of cash from diamond mines is a none starter. (It hasn't produced any significant amount of diamonds in years)
Where has cash come from? He basically refused to offer any explanation and walked off to bar.
We should all be MPs or even better MEPs. What a fecking mess.
I have always felt that there exists an international conspiracy at work, and I don't mean the usual culprits who have pretty much always pulled the strings.
Why would they destabilise a world order that they call the tune to?

What we have here is another dimension to warfare by indirect means.

Difficult to nail down the group behind it, when we can't "follow the money" though certain names and countries are offered as targets of choice.
When it could be Corporate........or something new, perhaps a syndicate..
 
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I have always felt that there exists an international conspiracy at work, and I don't mean the usual culprits who have pretty much always pulled the strings.
Why would they destabilise a world order that they call the tune to?

What we have here is another dimension to warfare by indirect means.

Difficult to nail down the group behind it, when we can't "follow the money" though certain names and countries are offered as targets of choice.
When it could be Corporate........or something new, perhaps a syndicate..
Yep, there is a lot not quite right about it all.
 
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I see that another “poisoning incident” is in the process of being teed up ahead Friday’s Chequers bun fight. It should make suitable fodder to feed to the shitmunchers to divert their attention away from The Brexit Plan.
 

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Yes it could indeed, how curiously convenient [emoji41]
I see that another “poisoning incident” is in the process of being teed up ahead Friday’s Chequers bun fight. It should make suitable fodder to feed to the shitmunchers to divert their attention away from The Brexit Plan.
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I suppose out of all faults an individual can display naivety is one of nicest.
Spelling posters handles wrongly not so much so. It's Zlatan Danidl.
I apologise for the name mishap, but cannot guarantee that it will not reoccur.. it is now stuck in my computer's suggested spellings.
As regards naivety, perhaps.... Within every society, there will be people jockeying for position . It does not have to be about money, status and position are equally important.. Weird Al , the US singer has such a song about the Amish, entitled I am more humble than you..
Definitions of corruption differ by society. In what way would a finder's fee, really differ from salvage rights , from commission, from hello money? from foreclosures, from multiple bankruptcies . As I said previously the Arab world would be agast with our definition of interest .
.. and they are just the financial ones.
What about plagarism, imitation as flattery, respect for precedence etc etc..
The rules differ in every society.
 

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I see that another “poisoning incident” is in the process of being teed up ahead Friday’s Chequers bun fight. It should make suitable fodder to feed to the shitmunchers to divert their attention away from The Brexit Plan.
There's a plan. That is good news.
 
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I apologise for the name mishap, but cannot guarantee that it will not reoccur.. it is now stuck in my computer's suggested spellings.
As regards naivety, perhaps.... Within every society, there will be people jockeying for position . It does not have to be about money, status and position are equally important.. Weird Al , the US singer has such a song about the Amish, entitled I am more humble than you..
Definitions of corruption differ by society. In what way would a finder's fee, really differ from salvage rights , from commission, from hello money? from foreclosures, from multiple bankruptcies . As I said previously the Arab world would be agast with our definition of interest .
.. and they are just the financial ones.
What about plagarism, imitation as flattery, respect for precedence etc etc..
The rules differ in every society.
Thanks for apology, its not required really. Think I started the jumbled up names anyhow.
Personally think the levels of corruption at every level and all places has reached highest levels they have ever been, but I, m very cynical, especially about human nature. The bigger the organisation the bigger the opportunity for corruption...
 
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I see that another “poisoning incident” is in the process of being teed up ahead Friday’s Chequers bun fight. It should make suitable fodder to feed to the shitmunchers to divert their attention away from The Brexit Plan.
It would need a special kind of cynicism to think our government would poison a couple of folk to divert attention from a fairly pointless meeting... but more unbelievable things have happened. We won on penalties last night... So anything is possible..
 
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This from the Guardian
"Paramedics were called to an address on Muggleton Road in Amesbury the morning of June 30 after a woman collapsed at the property, Wiltshire Police Deputy Chief Constable Paul Mills told reporters earlier Wednesday. They were called back later the same day after reports that a man became ill in the same location, he said."

So Novichok has a delayed action effect? and is actually non lethal?
And disables the person contacted in a similar fashion to crack.

"Wiltshire Police said they were initially believed to have fallen ill after using crack cocaine or heroin from a contaminated batch. On Monday, due to concerns over their symptoms, samples from both patients were sent to a laboratory for analysis.
This statement goes further than the original ones
""Following the detailed analysis of these samples, we can confirm that the man and woman have been exposed to the nerve agent Novichok, which has been identified as the same nerve agent that contaminated both Yulia and Sergei Skripal," Basu said.

Looking back I'm sure it was identified as "of a type" by Porton Down

Looks like a little prejudgement has been going on here and juggling with previous statements for greater effect.
 
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