Brexit, for once some facts.

[Zlatan]

Oh so now you are taking back all the things you have said about Luxmbourg?

No.
Because you silly feckers want the corrupt politician who got Luxembourg where it is in charge of us. Massive difference.And my criticism was not of their model of democracy just of Junkers and his immoral way of raising GDP, (Luxembourgs) at expense of rest of EU.
Last time I checked Trump isn't part of EU, you remember the corrupt, none democratic organisation we are trying to leave.

 

[oldgroaner]

Is Empty Baggage a town near you OG? Or a person perhaps? If not it doesn't need capitals.

I wanted to be sure you read and hopefully understood the words, and the capitals came free of charge

 

[flecc]

I haven't passed judgement flecc. Not my place. I live in UK. US citizens see it as their model of democracy. My point is all models of democracy are just that. A model. None perfect, as to which is best, who knows. We, ve moaned about ours enough which is fine. Moaning about somebody elses' is like commenting on neighbours wife. Not good form.

I'd have posted an agree but for the last comment. It's legitimate to complain about another's governance when they are guilty of as much bullying and interference with everybody else as the USA is.
.

 

[oldgroaner]

Because you silly feckers want the corrupt politician who got Luxembourg where it is in charge of us. Massive difference.

He wasn't "In Charge of us" and never will be, and anyway is only a temporary appointment.
And you just did the very thing you claimed we shouldn't do, didn't you?

 

[Zlatan]

He wasn't "In Charge of us" and never will be, and anyway is only a temporary appointment.
And you just did the very thing you claimed we shouldn't do, didn't you?

No, I didn't.
We are in EU at moment. Junkers represents a massive power within it. His behaviour has massive influence on on the whole Brexit debate. You are being obtuse to mix up your failing argument. Junkers and Luxembourg are part and parcel of the very system under scrutiny. Trump and USA are not. We might as well discuss China's poor human rights, or Columbia and its drug problems.
My only point has been Trump, regardless of all his faults or whatever, deserves some credit for the progress on certain aspects. From that for some reason yourself, Kiwi etal have taken to keyboards, arguing against points I have not even made.
And regardless of any opinions held Trump was elected democratically, more so than Junkers.

 

[oldtom]

Tom

 

[Woosh]

Junkers represents a massive power within it.

you see too much into it.
The EU is a rule based organisation. You know the rules, you play the system.
It's more tightly organised than the UN talking shop but their civil servants still can't do anything without the heads of states. EU directives take years to negotiate.
Juncker can't do much himself other than booking the EU jet for his travels and claiming expenses.
The reason the EU appears tough in negotiation with us because their delegates can't break their rule book. Like saying 'the computer says no' is much easier than trying to be imaginative.

 

[Zlatan]

you see too much into it.
The EU is a rule based organisation. It's more tightly organised than the UN talking shop but their civil servants still can't do anything without the members' heads of states. EU directives take years to negotiate.
Juncker can't do much himself other than booking the EU jet for his travels and claim expenses.

Is that all.
And he did quite enough whilst PM in Luxembourg.

 

[Zlatan]

BTW, I didn't add the "Tom" it's what you find when you Google "bigotry".

 

[Zlatan]

you see too much into it.
The EU is a rule based organisation. It's more tightly organised than the UN talking shop but their civil servants still can't do anything without the heads of states. EU directives take years to negotiate.
Juncker can't do much himself other than booking the EU jet for his travels and claiming expenses.

OG brought Junkers up. Err. What a thought.

 

[oldgroaner]

No, I didn't.
We are in EU at moment. Junkers represents a massive power within it. His behaviour has massive influence on on the whole Brexit debate. You are being obtuse to mix up your failing argument. Junkers and Luxembourg are part and parcel of the very system under scrutiny. Trump and USA are not. We might as well discuss China's poor human rights, or Columbia and its drug problems.
My only point has been Trump, regardless of all his faults or whatever, deserves some credit for the progress on certain aspects. From that for some reason yourself, Kiwi etal have taken to keyboards, arguing against points I have not even made.
And regardless of any opinions held Trump was elected democratically, more so than Junkers.

You appear to be unaware of the meaning of the content of your postings, but unfortunately for you other people do understand them.

 

[Woosh]

Is that all.
And he did quite enough whilst PM in Luxembourg.

he was more powerful then.
He's not more powerful than Bercow now.

 

[oldgroaner]

OG brought Junkers up. Err. What a thought.

Another exaple of the way you twist things and put in words of your own.
Where did I mention Juncker?
This is what I posted
"
Oh so now you are taking back all the things you have said about Luxembourg?

Can't you get anything right? it was you bought up his name and who leapt in at the oportunity to attack your Hatred of this Political character.

 

[Zlatan]

Another exaple of the way you twist things and put in words of your own.
Where did I mention Juncker?
This is what I posted
"
Oh so now you are taking back all the things you have said about Luxembourg?

Can't you get anything right? it was you bought up his name and who leapt in at the oportunity to attack your favourite Hated of this Political character.

But I, ve never mentioned Luxembourg only Junkers affect on it.
BTW neither "hated" or "political" are proper nouns, but your post is senseless anyway. And "it" should be "It". Sentences start with a capital.
I, ll wake my grandson up and get him to correct your posts. Your errors amplify as you become more agitated perhaps.

 

[Zlatan]

Good night OG. Put me on ignore. Please.

 

[oldgroaner]

But I, ve never mentioned Luxembourg only Junkers affect on it.
BTW neither "hated" or "political" are proper nouns.

Your latest comment on Luxembourg was this, today
"And my criticism was not of their model of democracy just of Junkers and his immoral way of raising GDP, (Luxembourgs) at expense of rest of EU.
So in fact you did not say
Luxembourg's level of GDP was immoral and at the expense of the rest of the EU?
If that isn't a criticism of their model of democracy, how could it happen?
An individual should not be able to do that, should they?

I can look back and find plenty more examples of your loaded remarks about Luxembourg if you'd like.

 

[oldgroaner]

Good night OG. Put me on ignore. Please.

Good night to you too

 

[Zlatan]

Good night to you too

Read it again OG. Then look up how to spell opportunity and brought.

"Criticism not of Luxembourg but of how Junkers raised its GDP".
????
Go to bed OG.

 

[oldgroaner]

Read it again OG. Then look up how to spell opportunity and brought.

"Criticism not of Luxembourg but of how Junkers raised its GDP".
????
Go to bed OG.

Typos, and remember I can find plenty of yours too, but that would be childish, I'll leave that sort of thing to you.
And by the way, you didn't spot them all

 

[tommie]

Your latest comment on Luxembourg was this, today
"And my criticism was not of their model of democracy just of Junkers and his immoral way of raising GDP, (Luxembourgs) at expense of rest of EU.
So in fact you did not say
Luxembourg's level of GDP was immoral and at the expense of the rest of the EU?
If that isn't a criticism of their model of democracy, how could it happen?
An individual should not be able to do that, should they?

I can look back and find plenty more examples of your loaded remarks about Luxembourg if you'd like.