Indeed Tom, I took it as read from his appointing so many Scots to government,even his minister for London being a Scot!
But it's worth pointing it out for those who don't know.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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But it's worth pointing it out for those who don't know.
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Instead we'll just be tied to supporting the US forces and falling into line with US foreign policy.
While still paying for EU access.
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I can't see JC toeing US foreign policy if he wins.
As for paying into the EU budget, it's good VFM.
Big if though, per this previous post. The Tories have to lose the next GE for Corbyn to get into power.
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Good post flecc. Cant disagree with any of that. End result is same, we have Tories in power for foreseeable future....either way..
Indeed. As you've posted before we need a middle of the road party as an alternative to the Tories. Blair's looked like that at first but was far too close to Toryism and big business to be acceptable for many. The centrist Liberals have lost all credibility.
The problem is that it's so difficult to set up a new viable party with our first past the post system. The so called "Gang of Four", centre-right MPs, tried that when they set up the SDLP as a true centrist party.
But it needed proportional representation to get anywhere, which is why the main two parties will never enable that. So we're indefinitely stuck with the political mess we have now.
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4 years is a long time. Whether JC will be there to fight it or not, more people would want a change of government.
Reading about Macron's rise to power makes interesting reading. There are close parallels to the polarisation in our country to that France was experiencing.Perhaps JC should be having a good look at Macron's policies and way of working..
This quote is a small section of an excellent article about Macron and wether a similar event could happen here. ( it would have to be from within the current parties here)
"Even if the Tories collapse into internecine rows, they will not let go easily. To win, Labour will need to enlist the Macron constituency in Britain (as they already have in London) and then aim to build a variant of the Nordic model too – and to avoid the economic harakiri of hard Brexit.
European economies and societies share much. The British constitution and voting system do not allow a new party to do what En Marche! did. But the same forces exist. Get it wrong in government and Labour could be in the same place as France’s socialists. If Corbyn wants to consolidate his position, it would be a good idea not to make the same mistakes as them."
Lifted from Times online.
Interestingly Macron is planning on spending 50% of GDP on welfare type projects. JC is looking at best 40%..( Not sure of figure for tories)
This quote is a small section of an excellent article about Macron and wether a similar event could happen here. ( it would have to be from within the current parties here)
"Even if the Tories collapse into internecine rows, they will not let go easily. To win, Labour will need to enlist the Macron constituency in Britain (as they already have in London) and then aim to build a variant of the Nordic model too – and to avoid the economic harakiri of hard Brexit.
European economies and societies share much. The British constitution and voting system do not allow a new party to do what En Marche! did. But the same forces exist. Get it wrong in government and Labour could be in the same place as France’s socialists. If Corbyn wants to consolidate his position, it would be a good idea not to make the same mistakes as them."
Lifted from Times online.
Interestingly Macron is planning on spending 50% of GDP on welfare type projects. JC is looking at best 40%..( Not sure of figure for tories)
They'll be looking to cut by 40%.
As you posted, our constitution won't allow a new party or even JC to follow Macron. Every previous attempt has failed. Without proportional representation we just can't adopt the best methods of the EU countries. Basically our political leaders and parties are trapped in a straight jacket of our own making.
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Yes, I can see our system wouldn't allow a new party ( En Marche) but cant see why JC ( or who ever, even a fair minded Tory) adopt some of Macron's policies. ( ie Business reform but with higher incentive for work etc etc His " manifesto" does make interesting reading. Dont forget its not long at all since French establishment were saying Macron would never succeed. He seems rather a whizz kid with media ( which he has connections to) He banned any form of nepotism, but ironically tried to get a job for his wife ( but backed down)They'll be looking to cut by 40%.
As you posted, our constitution won't allow a new party or even JC to follow Macron. Every previous attempt has failed. Without proportional representation we just can't adopt the best methods of the EU countries. Basically our political leaders and parties are trapped in a straight jacket of our own making.
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He also told Putin months ago he,d bomb Syria if Chemical weapons were used again. He also grumbled at Putin about Russia's use of media for propoganda. He does seem everything our politicians are not, but he has media on his side.???
He is a politician, and bright new entrants are often found to be lacking later.
I'm reserving judgment on him until I see some results. So far it's been little other than talk and some cracks have been showing.
The big difference for JC is that the media will do him down whatever he does.
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Fair point. Its not all been sunshine and roses for Macron. He,s made some enemies in defence and previous alignments.
I didn't realise he,d worked for Rothschild and whilst there made £3 million...no wonder he turned his back on socialism.
But so far..so good...apart from Syria...
It is thought he is sorting France to be more competitive in most fields in future ...and reducing social division, which Tories seem to think is mutually exclusive.
But, he,s in power...! Always a bonus if you want to achieve something..
This clip is from a few years ago - I'll let you be the judge:
For me, it is appalling.....actually, it's worse than that. All those who voted for these inbred cheats, liars and parasites should be ashamed - you are responsible for the mess we are in!
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For me, it is appalling.....actually, it's worse than that. All those who voted for these inbred cheats, liars and parasites should be ashamed - you are responsible for the mess we are in!
Tom
I think this may find I'm in tune with Tillson's thinking about the qualities of the ugly woman masquerading as the Prime Minister of the UK while her party grandees conspire to find someone to replace her before the party life-support is switched off.
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From the Express
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World War 3: Theresa May BLASTS RUSSIA for SPREADING LIES in Britain after Syria attack
THERESA May has blasted Russia for spreading lies across Britain with the use of cyber technologies following the recent attack in Syria that engulfed nations across the globe in fears of World War 3.
This is intolerable! how dare they do what we expect to get from the Daily Expess, The Telegraph, Sun and the daily mail?
Here's the Express for example
The Daily Mail
How do these Propaganda Rags Qualify as "Newspapers of a Free Press"?
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World War 3: Theresa May BLASTS RUSSIA for SPREADING LIES in Britain after Syria attack
THERESA May has blasted Russia for spreading lies across Britain with the use of cyber technologies following the recent attack in Syria that engulfed nations across the globe in fears of World War 3.
This is intolerable! how dare they do what we expect to get from the Daily Expess, The Telegraph, Sun and the daily mail?
Here's the Express for example
The Daily Mail
How do these Propaganda Rags Qualify as "Newspapers of a Free Press"?
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I've got the Answer!
Because Jeremy Corbyn is not on the list.
This allows it to be classified "Not in the public interest"
Disillusionment over 'Brexit' is now widespread across the country for a variety of reasons and 'the daily mash' has homed in on the increasing embarrassment many now have about being British:
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