Hardly, I think Satan won them over long ago.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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I dare you to stand in front of the All Blacks and say New Zealand doesn't exist..... Would love to be able to say that in which case the Irish Rugby team would be number 1 in the world....
They do say that Hell is like an Olde English Pub on a midwinter night.
You can't get near to the Fire for Vicars and MP's
And on an Historical note I give you the last words of the Mayor of Gomorra
I always knew it was a mistake to be twinned with Sodom!
Of the fools list I read today, that was the only one that I actually laughed at. Someone has got a very acute sense of humour.The EU have their own April Fool Fake news
Nice colour!
From the Telegraph
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Charles MooreJeremy Corbyn's proximity to power is opening voters' eyes to the extremists he associates with.
This is known as self promotion of your own smear Campaign, but it won't divert attention from the Elephant in the room of Conservatives being under Foreign influence by the same group complaining about his attitude to them.
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Charles MooreJeremy Corbyn's proximity to power is opening voters' eyes to the extremists he associates with.
This is known as self promotion of your own smear Campaign, but it won't divert attention from the Elephant in the room of Conservatives being under Foreign influence by the same group complaining about his attitude to them.
Todays Fake News in the Express
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Health tourism gap REVEALED: Soft touch UK pays out £565m MORE than EU nations send
BRITAIN paid European governments nearly £565million more last year to treat UK citizens abroad than the government got back from them to care for their nationals, official figures have shown."
Amazing how the fact that British Expats are older and need more care than the EU resident here can be disputed for propaganda purposes, what has that got to do with "Health Tourism?"
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Health tourism gap REVEALED: Soft touch UK pays out £565m MORE than EU nations send
BRITAIN paid European governments nearly £565million more last year to treat UK citizens abroad than the government got back from them to care for their nationals, official figures have shown."
Amazing how the fact that British Expats are older and need more care than the EU resident here can be disputed for propaganda purposes, what has that got to do with "Health Tourism?"
I am more and more worried about the UK. Are you sure everything is going to be all right?
From the Daily Mail
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DOMINIC LAWSON: Why everyone should fear the murderous hatred of Jeremy Corbyn’s feral shock troops
Can we get one thing straight about the hard-Left, whose takeover of the Labour Party is now almost complete?
They are not hateful only because of their rank odour of anti-Semitism. The anti-Semitism is just one manifestation of their all-embracing hatefulness.
Or, to put it another way: even if we hadn’t become aware of the way so many of Jeremy Corbyn’s most ardent supporters use the word ‘Jew’ as a form of abuse, there was already ample evidence that they are filled with an almost murderous hatred of their political opponents, and of any group in society they regard as an enemy.
So now the word Jew is a form of abuse, and it's OK to describe the "hard left" as Anti-semitic?
What happened to the laws about stirring up hatred?
And what is this
" an almost murderous hatred of their political opponents, and of any group in society they regard as an enemy."
Other than the author doing the very thing he rants on about others doing?
Why is this columnist making such stereotyping accusation and not being halted by the law from doing so?
What we are looking at is a desperate attempt to pre-empt a Corbyn Victory in the next election by a running scared Conservative Group and their financial backers.
I rather hope they succeed, for a Corbyn victory would mean Labour would end up carrying the Blame for the Brexit debacle to come, and I really don't want that to happen.
Never mind a campaign against "online Abuse"
We need one against "Offline Abuse" by the Media too,
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DOMINIC LAWSON: Why everyone should fear the murderous hatred of Jeremy Corbyn’s feral shock troops
Can we get one thing straight about the hard-Left, whose takeover of the Labour Party is now almost complete?
They are not hateful only because of their rank odour of anti-Semitism. The anti-Semitism is just one manifestation of their all-embracing hatefulness.
Or, to put it another way: even if we hadn’t become aware of the way so many of Jeremy Corbyn’s most ardent supporters use the word ‘Jew’ as a form of abuse, there was already ample evidence that they are filled with an almost murderous hatred of their political opponents, and of any group in society they regard as an enemy.
So now the word Jew is a form of abuse, and it's OK to describe the "hard left" as Anti-semitic?
What happened to the laws about stirring up hatred?
And what is this
" an almost murderous hatred of their political opponents, and of any group in society they regard as an enemy."
Other than the author doing the very thing he rants on about others doing?
Why is this columnist making such stereotyping accusation and not being halted by the law from doing so?
What we are looking at is a desperate attempt to pre-empt a Corbyn Victory in the next election by a running scared Conservative Group and their financial backers.
I rather hope they succeed, for a Corbyn victory would mean Labour would end up carrying the Blame for the Brexit debacle to come, and I really don't want that to happen.
Never mind a campaign against "online Abuse"
We need one against "Offline Abuse" by the Media too,
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No, I'm certain it is far from all right.
the more I read this sort of trash, the more inclined I am to vote for JC next time (I have only voted Labour once).
From the independent
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Brexit: Japan says trade deal with EU is a greater priority than deal with UK
Exclusive: 'A lot of Japanese companies are concerned with the prospect of the Brexit,' senior minister warns
Shinichi Iida, minister for public diplomacy and media, said his country's "first and foremost priority" was rubber-stamping its historic trade agreement with Brussels – the largest the EU has ever signed – before work could begin on establishing lucrative free trade deals with the UK.
As one of the UK's major investors, Japan has been outspoken in its concerns over Brexit, with its ambassador warning Theresa May earlier this year that its firms could leave Britain if a chaotic exit makes it "unprofitable" for them to remain.
Oh Dear!
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Brexit: Japan says trade deal with EU is a greater priority than deal with UK
Exclusive: 'A lot of Japanese companies are concerned with the prospect of the Brexit,' senior minister warns
Shinichi Iida, minister for public diplomacy and media, said his country's "first and foremost priority" was rubber-stamping its historic trade agreement with Brussels – the largest the EU has ever signed – before work could begin on establishing lucrative free trade deals with the UK.
As one of the UK's major investors, Japan has been outspoken in its concerns over Brexit, with its ambassador warning Theresa May earlier this year that its firms could leave Britain if a chaotic exit makes it "unprofitable" for them to remain.
Oh Dear!
OG. Is this entire post a quote or some of it yours. Afraid it confuses me almost as much as Labour does itself...( Ambiguity intended)
Read this morning 17,000 Labour members have left over the anti Semitic row. That's plain crazy, they don't like what's happening so hand the party to very folk they oppose ??? Where are they going ? Over to May ??? And on Easter Monday..
In mean time...back at the funny farm...
Apparently Russia has forwarded a further 12 questions to UK over the poisoning, at least 4 of which are asking about the French involvement ?? Good question , when did that happen ?
But why should France getting involved worry Russia?
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I have edited and italicised my "bit" sorry for not being clearer...
The 17,000 seem to have just quit, if they hadn't and gone somewhere else...
Oh! that will be tomorows headline!
French involvement? really? how did that come up I wonder?
There has been a number of cautionary utterances from a variety of groups and individuals which have all been ignored by this plutocratic government. The sooner the UK discovers the real cost of ignoring all the good advice that has been offered, the better.
Then we can get on with the task of making an application to rejoin and become a full member of the greatest peacetime achievement ever contemplated by European governments.
Tom
that figure seems a little OTT.
The labour membership was at 554,000+ last July. The 17,000 was an estimate number of leavers by the Times journalists for this year, roughly about 3% - you need to balance that against new joiners. The effect is small, the difference may even be in favour of Mr Corbyn. All the noises in the media about anti-semitism may hurt the Jewish community more than anything else, their voice in the Labour movement has always been very strong, much less so if they now leave.
On the Fifth of January2018 the independent posted this
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Conservative party's refusal to admit plunging membership numbers is embarrassing, says Grant Shapps
Figure has not been released for four years - but is as low as 70,000, according to one party campaigner
And this
Both the Scottish National Party (118,000) and the Liberal Democrats (103,000) also reported six-figure totals..
Mr Shapps said Mr Cameron had “taken some convincing” to release the figures at the end of 2013, showing the Conservatives had 149,800 members at that point
You have to wonder how they can claim to represent the majority of the voters with such low support!
And it does show why minority nut case factions among the party membership enjoy such power, and why they can in all probability be influenced by anyone from anywhere with enough money.
After all a party that is willing to buy seats is surely not going to baulk at the idea of selling them is it?
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It may well be , who knows. Google " members leaving labour party" and figures vary by large amounts. The number leaving doesn't affect point tho. Seems strange that folk willing to donate to party simply leave, making situation worse, (last month folk were leaving ovrr Corbyn's Brexit stance, this month its anti semitism)rather than fighting their corner. Its a very superficial attitude, join Labour party to support Corbyn and a few months later leave ? Have they changed their own principles or assumed they have no influence ? Begs question why join in first place. It should be a decision based on principles, and as much as I disagree with stance taken on a few things with Corbyn, the one thing he has not changed with is his principles. Suppose its modern ethos, depends what folk read last night ?
I took the figures from the HoC. Only the conservatives don't want the HoC to reveal the true figure.
The membership of the Labour party is greater than the rest added together.
http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN05125
The endemic anti-semitism in all the major UK parties is rooted more in the classes (rich against poor) than xenophobia or outright racism. The recent noises made in the media (including the BBC) just make the 'them and us' worse. The Jewish communities in the UK add up to about 1% of the population and yet their political participation and influence are well prominent.
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