Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldtom]

The tory scum who buy the propaganda rags of the far-right billionaires who bankroll their despicable party and take their television news from Murdoch's SKY or worse, the BBC, are the enemies of the common people of the UK.

Their minds are so twisted as a result of lifelong, systemic brainwashing by these organisations that they have lost all rationale and should be disbarred from voting. They are so damaged by the 'education' process presented to them as truth and as facts that they simply cannot begin to believe that they have been lied to every single day by the very media they have been brought up to trust implicitly.

The web blog, 'The Canary', highlights some recent examples of how the BBC portrays some important events in a deliberately biased manner. The article barely scratches the surface.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/2018/01/19/need-talk-happened-bbc-news-ten-opinion/

Tom

 

[Zlatan]

Common people takes on a different meaning now Tom.

The common people you refer to now drive Audis , work in telecoms and earn £50k a year. Its why your left is struggling. Move on Tom. Times have changed.

 

[tillson]

Hitler intended war come what may, and there is not way any army we could come up with in peace time would prevent that.

This is where nuclear weapons assist in keeping the peace. Had Hittler's Germany faced the threat of nuclear attack in response to their decision to invade another country, maybe it wouldn't have happened. To be given the choice of either reversing your unprovoked aggressive action or face biblical levels of destruction, its a pretty persuasive.

 

[SHAN]

if you can't wait for the bus, what then?
Taxis are shared transport. More people will use it in place of buses if it's cheaper. Driverless taxis can reduce the size, weight and operating cost. More availability can also reduce the non-productive portion of their mileage.

In my case having to wait a maximum of 30 minutes for a bus isn't an inconvenience. Most folks I know, inconveniences in such circumstances are caused by their own poor time management, and lack of ability to look at "the bigger picture". Hopefully, in the near future I/we shall be moving into a town, the bus service is every 10 minutes. I have put a bit of thought, and research into the location, and my wife's car, which she currently depends on, will be given the "heave". Anyone in Scotland over the age of 60, can go anywhere on any public bus service free. I'm not there yet, but I can go to any major city in Scotland, return by train for under £11 return, and stress free. Are there some form of taxi's that don't get caught up in inner city gridlock ? OK there are regional differences, but I travel extensively throughout the UK and Europe, and manage exceptionally well using public transport. With the availability of hand held technology all relevant timetables are downloadable.

 

[SHAN]

The US has to be permanently at war "It's good for the economy!"...

And they know it.

https://www.npr.org/2011/01/17/132942244/ikes-warning-of-military-expansion-50-years-later

 

[Zlatan]

Indeed!
Did you see that Norway is expecting to have electric powered airliners in the next twenty years?

No chance. They have developed ( copied) high output light weight motors which can give extraordinary power to weight....without including the battery. The 20 year delay is waiting for battery technology. Last time I looked best battery available gave a power storage( volume) coefficient of 7. ( petrol being 1)
That means in volume terms to hold equal energy battery would need to be 7 times size of fuel tank...Thats before we look at weight/ mass.
Perhaps in 200 years.

 

[Zlatan]

This is where nuclear weapons assist in keeping the peace. Had Hittler's Germany faced the threat of nuclear attack in response to their decision to invade another country, maybe it wouldn't have happened. To be given the choice of either reversing your unprovoked aggressive action or face biblical levels of destruction, its a pretty persuasive.

Exactly.Well said.

 

[tillson]

No chance. They have developed ( copied) high output light weight motors which can give extraordinary power to weight....without including the battery. The 20 year delay is waiting for battery technology. Last time I looked best battery available gave a power storage( volume) coefficient of 7. ( petrol being 1)
That means in volume terms to hold equal energy battery would need to be 7 times size of fuel tank...Thats before we look at weight/ mass.
Perhaps in 200 years.

When you look at how long it has taken to progress from a lead-acid cell to where we are today, I would say that 200 years is optimistic!

 

[flecc]

for others, sitting in traffic in their "bubble of selfishness" is a convenience, and travelling by bus, beneath their "class".

This is far from always true. For a number of my working decades I had to commute by car into the middle of London because the use of that car was often unpredictably required at during the day. Sometimes they were company cars, sometimes my own, and there are many in the same position whose work is in connection with customers.
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[flecc]

The Germans have contributed to this problem with their lies and deceit over VW emissions. What have the EU done about? What have they done to deal with the German scam? Errr nothing. No change, situation normal.

In other words VW and the others too have too much influence for Governments to tackle them, and ours will be the weakest of the lot after Brexit, any car maker will walk all over them.
They won't be pushing the car makers, only the EU will do that.

The EU has organised a meeting, that is what they have done. As for sanctions that is a national government problem not a EU one. Sovereignty old chum, sovereignty...

The EU does act against VW and has done a number of times previously. Historically for price fixing on cars the EU first fined VW €8 million, then a few years later when caught price fixing again, €40 millions.

Then last September the EU fined VW's Scania truck division €880 millions for price fixing, seems the company never learns.

And in the emissions scandal the EU has forced VW to apply what is in effect an additional two year warranty on the affected cars.

As OG says, national governments seeem unable to act against these powerful companies, and that is just one reason why we need the EU, in the future as well as the past.
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[SHAN]

This is far from always true. For a number of my working decades I had to commute by car into the middle of London because the use of that car was often unpredictably required at during the day. Sometimes they were company cars, sometimes my own, and there are many in the same position whose work is in connection with customers.
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Of course there is always the exception. I have a friend who is a health and safety inspector. For seven years he has successfully continued with his job as a site inspector/investigator by using public transport and a Brompton. You don't know whether something is going to work or not unless you try it first, wholeheartedly, with an open mind, and do your homework. Sacrifices often have to be made, but "other doors" open.

 

[flecc]

From the Mirror a little light comedy for a change
"
Donald Trump tells anti-abortion rally 'women giving birth in NINTH month of pregnancy is WRONG and has to change'
The US president made the perplexing statement during a 'March for Life' rally outside the White House on Friday"

Should be interesting to see what the genius proposes to change it!

No doubt he meant to say Abortions in the ninth month of Pregnancy are wrong, but suffered yet another slip of the tongue or rather the Brain.
How long can this strange individual continue as allegedly the most powerful man on the planet before he commits some dangerously damaging mistake?

I think he may be Boris's half brother, the hair is a clue, only Boris hasn't heard about hair lacquer.
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[Woosh]

In my case having to wait a maximum of 30 minutes for a bus isn't an inconvenience. Most folks I know, inconveniences in such circumstances are caused by their own poor time management, and lack of ability to look at "the bigger picture". Hopefully, in the near future I/we shall be moving into a town, the bus service is every 10 minutes. I have put a bit of thought, and research into the location, and my wife's car, which she currently depends on, will be given the "heave". Anyone in Scotland over the age of 60, can go anywhere on any public bus service free. I'm not there yet, but I can go to any major city in Scotland, return by train for under £11 return, and stress free. Are there some form of taxi's that don't get caught up in inner city gridlock ? OK there are regional differences, but I travel extensively throughout the UK and Europe, and manage exceptionally well using public transport. With the availability of hand held technology all relevant timetables are downloadable.

so your opposition to driverless taxis is not that taxis are not public support but about cost? If so, removing the driver makes economic sense.

 

[flecc]

( The Spitfire and Merlin engine were initiated in private funding, with those individuals responsible knowing government was making massive blunder)

No not true. The Spitfire was a racing seaplane to compete in a popular aerial sport in the 1930s. there was absolutely no thought of it being a warplane in its design.

Finding ourselves unprepared for war we hurriedly had it redesigned as a warplane but it was at first very poor in that role, the weak lightweight airframe unable to take more than four machine guns which had to be widely spaced so less effective. Later when a method of firing through the propeller was developed more machine guns were added.

However it always remained unsatisfactory, the purpose designed Hurricane far more effective, and the Spitfire's reputation among the general public not deserved.

Over 18,000 Spitfires were built, over 13,000 Hurricanes, but that just over two thirds of Hurricanes shot down some 50% more enemy warplanes. These figures and the facts are freely available from both the RAF and the Air Ministry. The reasons behind the difference in fighting performance of the two planes are well understood and I can explain them if you wish.
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[SHAN]

so your opposition to driverless taxis is not that taxis are not public support but about cost? If so, removing the driver makes economic sense.

My belief is that we should have a well thought out integrated public transport system, rail, bus, and cycle friendly. It is not an impossibility. We live in an age of obesity, a looming type two diabetes "epidemic", an overburdened NHS, looking at transport and how we use it long term in a positive way could, potentially have many benefits. Plus, if you earn your living as a taxi driver, is becoming " carless" economic sense for you. Do you really think that having a driverless taxi is going to result in a reduction in fares ? The people who will benefit are the "Ubers" of the world. No drivers to pay, and no checks to go through in case you have some form of criminal pest at the wheel. Recently there was guff about three trucks running in convoy, first with driver, second two driverless, and how great this would be, new distribution hubs would need to be thought out to cope. Well, blow me down, but the Australians have been operating three trailer road trains with one prime mover for over fifty years, successfully so what's new ?

 

[flecc]

Of course there is always the exception. I have a friend who is a health and safety inspector. For seven years he has successfully continued with his job as a site inspector/investigator by using public transport and a Brompton. You don't know whether something is going to work or not unless you try it first, wholeheartedly, with an open mind, and do your homework. Sacrifices often have to be made, but "other doors" open.

Public transport completely impossible for many in my position, using a whole day sometimes for something taking only a part of it by car. As I know from experience there can be gaps of hours between train services to many destinations during the day.
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[flecc]

Did you see that Norway is expecting to have electric powered airliners in the next twenty years?

Won't happen & can't happen. I can't see how it is possible to carry the amount of energy required to sustain electrically powered flight on the scale of commercial air transport. The energy storage would be too heavy, too dangerous and provide inadequate range.

Agreed, no chance, unless they are making a bid to limit their recently expanding population.
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[Woosh]

Well, blow me down, but the Australians have been operating three trailer road trains with one prime mover for over fifty years, successfully so what's new ?

I receive containers every month. Some of them have long trailers, they can't turn easily. By having smaller trailers following a leader, that problem is solved.
The likes of Uber will exploit the technology for their financial gain but the customers will be the main beneficiaries of advances in AI.

 

[Kudoscycles]

You too huh? F**k the African farmers who can supply the same product for less. And you call yourself a socialist. Shame on you.

Oxygen James.....it’s starting to look like we will have to stay in the customs union for many reasons in particular the Irish border problem,do you see any countries,either UK or EU,preparing for customs posts,at any border or UK port?
If we stay in the customs union then we will have to agree to continue with all EU tariffs,those tariffs probably continued to be paid to the EU...I suspect that the EU will,in return,let us have access to all the current EU trade deals.
If current negotiations are a guide,we will agree to pay for access,,,,TM has agreed to pay everything that the EU has asked for,so why should the next stage of Brexit be any different?
So your dream of buying product tariff free from the rest of the world looks like a dream,which is why Liam Fox is about as much use as a chocolate teapot!!!
KudosDave

 

[flecc]

This is where nuclear weapons assist in keeping the peace. Had Hittler's Germany faced the threat of nuclear attack in response to their decision to invade another country, maybe it wouldn't have happened. To be given the choice of either reversing your unprovoked aggressive action or face biblical levels of destruction, its a pretty persuasive.

Very true when they are in the hands of rational people.

Snag now is that Pakistan, India, North Korea and China have them and the dominant religions in those areas are fatalistic. Add an unstable leadership and no outcome can be ruled out.
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