Best Value Electric MTB

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trex

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I don't think you can give a kit EN15194 because you can't know their future situation with E
Trex is wrong about the brake cut-out. It does indeed have one, as any owner will confirm. .
where is it? can't see the sensor at the brake levers.
 

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While there are many reasons for selecting one type or make of EAPC over another, two considerations for an awful lot of potential buyers rank somewhere near the top of the list; one is price and another is weight.

Now, while not everyone is concerned by either, many people would like to be able to attach their bike to their car, two bikes in some cases. The Big Bear at 26Kgs is too heavy for most cycle carriers even minus the battery. The Oxygen MTB comes in at 21Kgs which, after battery removal, reduces the weight to under 20Kgs, the limit for high-end cycle carriers. Most roof or tailgate cycle carriers have a limit of 15Kgs for each bike attached so for the heavyweight models such as the BB, the only safe way for transportation by car is either inside the vehicle or on a towbar-mounted carrier.

In terms of price, the Oxygen at its current price seems great value for the power and quality on offer, (I haven't ridden one). That said, the Whoosh models have all provided fairly decent quality and power for quite a long time now. They appear very good value although again, I haven't ridden one.

I'm not sure I'd want to swap my Kalkhoff PC for the Oxygen though as it really is very good.

Tom
 

trex

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woosh are moving to lightweight bikes. The forthcoming Woosh Karoo (beginning of August?) weighs only 19kgs, complete with 13AH battery and front and rear Avid brakes.

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I don't think you can give a kit EN15194 because you can't know their future situation with E


where is it? can't see the sensor at the brake levers.
I've been sworn to secrecy. Oxygen don't want their competitors to get hold of the technology. If I told you, I'd have to kill you, then the forum would become boring.
 
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there are plenty of bikes without brake sensors! I don't mean it as a criticism, all the Bosch bikes do not have brake sensors although they don't have throttle and are torque controlled.
I reckon you'd get £700 for your Volt Metro.
Quite often the brake sensor is a tension sensor in the rear brake line only,I think our Cobra bike has this setup,it passes EN15194,I suppose the theory is that you would always brake with the rear first.
It may be the same on the Oxygen,which would be the reason why no brake cutouts on the levers.
Just a thought.
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Quite often the brake sensor is a tension sensor in the rear brake line only,I think our Cobra bike has this setup,it passes EN15194,I suppose the theory is that you would always brake with the rear first.
It may be the same on the Oxygen,which would be the reason why no brake cutouts on the levers.
Just a thought.
KudosDave
Nice try, but no cigar!
 

trex

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it's got Tektro Auriga hydraulic brakes like on your Rapide, so can't use inline brake sensors.
The brakes are sufficiently powerful, no real need for brake sensors but just a point of curiosity or they've saved some money.
 

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No Dave,risk the temptation,enjoy the sunshine,don't get controversial,it will only cause arguments,trex will quote Woosh, will find an Ansmann or Cyclezee,oh sod it....the best value electric mountain bike is the Kudos Tornado....oh,regret it already,flak helmets at the ready,hehe.....
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trex

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The Karoo is the revised version of the Woosh Lite which was prototyped last year. Strictly speaking, the Karoo is not an MTB. The motor is a new 8-Fun rear hub. 8-speed Shimano Acera shift. Brakes are Avid disc front and rear. The Karoo is the first Woosh fitted with Hollowtech type crankset for high milers.
The battery on the picture is wrong. It's more like the Hailong HL-01 shaped bottle. Price around £750 - £800.
The old Woosh Lite:

 
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Thanks for your responses, I am at a meeting with the BA on Monday where we will discuss this point amongst others. It's good to get some feedback from those who are already using kits.

All the best

David
 

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Does anyone have any idea how the EMate MTB compares to my front wheel drive Oxygen kit in terms of torque? I'm on 700s on a ridgeback hybrid.
 
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It's definitely more, but difficult to quantify. Its real strong point is high speed cruising.
 

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More torque than my Bosch bikes, which are adequate.

I doubt any buyer will be disappointed with the speed or torque of the Oxygen.
 

Drdrdan

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Hi. Can anyone give me some advice on the Oxygen emate City v Smartmotion eUrban? I have a 15 mile each way fairly hilly commute, and have a dodgy knee so I cant put in much torque - particularly need a lot of assistance getting up hills. Many thanks.