Battery recommendation for Cyc motor

[SeanChad]

Hi
New member here, currently running a Bbs02 on a Giant talon but I'm looking at a motor.upgrade to a cyc x1 stealth 1500w and I can't decide which battery to go for.

CYC offer one using Samsung 50E cells 10ah for about £460 but I've read the 50E cells are not great and the capacity doesn't seem that big for the price and I also don't like the mounting option it doesn't appear to be easily removable. At about £450 the capacity isn't great either.

I also get confused with which BMS I would need and get a bit lost. Wondering if anyone has a recommendation?

Cheers

 

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they can custom build you a batt to any size shape and capacity you want but it wont be cheap.

the batt depend on how many amps you want to pull from it non stop at max power so if the motors controllers max setting is 30a then you need a batt capable of that many amps.

 

[SeanChad]

Cheers for the reply, I have sent them a message asking for a quote and just waiting for a response. I was trying to weigh up my options. Seen a pack on sale using Samsung 30q cells too but each one I find someone has a complaint about the cells!

 

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if you get jimmy to make the pack then he will have different cells you can choose from and have warranty.

 

[SeanChad]

Ok will wait and see what Jimmy comes.back with, it was Andy's video that sent me in his direction, been watching his videos for a while. I was hoping to get a few viable options on the table to fit in with my budget.

 

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the batt is the most expensive part on the bike and every single person that comes on here after getting a batt from china ect always ends in disaster and money down the drain and the bin lorry set on fire as throw them in the bin

my bosch batt is like 13ah and there £633 and can bus locked so cant use anything else

 

[SeanChad]

My current kit was from psw power which is pretty much Ali express. To be fair it's been ok hasn't let me.down but God knows if the capacity is as advertised.

The prices is crazy isn't it

Found this for 400 which looks ok but not sure if the cells would be up to the job

52v 18ah eBike Battery Samsung 30Q High Performance 50amps LAST FEW LEFT

Designed to fit on down tube utilising water bottle bolts. These are specifically designed for high output discharge and sustained high drain of 50A and burst of 80A Perfect for the Bafang BBSHD with…

ebikesystems.co.uk

 

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thats the thing with these batts you never know what cells are in them as it only takes one bad cell to go wrong and kaboom.

Single Stage Big Block Middrive- RHD

The best value in a high performance mid drive kit

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you will need some batt for that thing but it can go up a dam spill way going 45mph

 

[SeanChad]

That thing is a monster! Run that one off the mains with a very big extension lead!

 

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you can get bigger ones power wise up to 1250bhp

 

[SeanChad]

It's mad to think how much these bikes/motors have come on even just in the last few years. The Bbs02 felt quick when i got.it.but now it.bores me!

 

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yet the batts get bigger and more expensive m8 has the hd and a 20ah batt but with the throttle the range is about 17 miles as dont paddle as goes to work on it going 40mph.

 

[Nealh]

For cyc one would think you would be looking at a far better battery then a basic off the shelf jobbie, something with 4 or 5p of moli 45b, 42a or sam 40t or a 6p of vct6 at least. Proper high drain /current cells , forget the 30Q power tool batteries.
The 10a mediocre high current cells are ideal for lesser motors , if using them with the cyc one will want them in 8 or 10p.

 

[SeanChad]

What are your thoughts on the battery cyc recommend? Their own 10ah 52v using Samsung 50e?

 

[AGS]

You need to choose your battery depending upon how much range you are looking for and your riding style.

If you intend to let the motor do all of the work for you at 1500 watts then you will be pumping 30 amps out of the battery, so a 10ah battery will give you 20 minutes of continuous riding, which incidentally is about the same range as a standard Surron.

I use a 20ah battery on a BBSHD off road and with heavy use I can go for an hour of playing in the mud. And with light use I can extend it to give me around 30 miles of gentle trail riding.

 

[SeanChad]

This is the sort of thing I was trying to get my head around. Do you think.something like this would be an option

52V 19Ah Downtube eBike Battery

A higher capacity 48v battery with good quality cells. Our best selling battery will last you for a long time, and comes with a 12month warranty. Charger included.

custombuilt-ebikes.co.uk

19ah and continuous discharge 30amps, says it's good for.up to 1500 watts or so.i need something with a bigger BMS since peak watts can be higher?

 

[AGS]

Yes that’s more like what you need. I use a backpack battery because I don’t have enough room to mount it on the bike easily and I want to keep the weight off the frame.

 

[AGS]

I noticed the cyc x1 is rated at 2Kw, so even that battery won’t unleash its full potential. The problem is weight and size limitations on your bike for an even bigger battery.

Also it will put even more strain on your gear set at 2Kw. I get some nasty crunches when I get it wrong at 1500 watts.

 

[SeanChad]

It's a nightmare this battery shopping! I'm glad I asked! So does that mean really im looking for something with a 50amp BMS?

 

[SeanChad]

Something along these lines

52v 17.5Ah 50A/2200W Down Tube Battery + 4A Charger

52v 17.5Ah Smaller Cased, Semi High Power Long Range 50A/2200W Down Tube Battery + 4A Charger

www.electroncycles.co.uk