Could be a switch in order for power to be permitted to go to the pins.The Bosch powertool batteries have 3 connections, -ve and +ve on the outside and a central connector.
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Does anyone know what the central connector is for ?
I was also wondering about this. Can't be because of amps, because not a lot is drawn by chargers. Perhaps there's more chance of a dicky connection with an extension lead?Why they advice against using extension leads?
...I always use extension lead
I though of that, however the 18V batteries appear to have the sam central connector;Could be a switch in order for power to be permitted to go to the pins.
I am starting to think this advice is given by people who do not understand process of charging ebike battery. It is more like copy/paste general knowledge from somewhere. In my opinion the further away from home you take battery and charger the safer you are. After all I don't quite like idea of my shed ending up as a giant fireball, but I very much prefer my shed going up in flames than my house.I was also wondering about this. Can't be because of amps, because not a lot is drawn by chargers. Perhaps there's more chance of a dicky connection with an extension lead?
Reading the other threads... it seems after the green light appears, chargers continue to supply a small charge for balancing, which may or may not eventually shut off, which may or may not cause your battery to become incandescent with rage and burn your shed down.Another thing is: "Do not overcharge battery". What does "overcharge" even mean?
Well there would be a greater chance of a dicky connection but then that would apply to all uses of an extension lead, so should sales of them be banned ?Perhaps there's more chance of a dicky connection with an extension lead?
Manufacturers recommend leaving batteries on charge for a long time (6,12,24h) from time to time. They wouldn't be doing that unless they are confident it is safe. Is balancing cells considered as overcharge?Reading the other threads... it seems after the green light appears, chargers continue to supply a small charge for balancing, which may or may not eventually shut off, which may or may not cause your battery to become incandescent with rage and burn your shed down.
It'd be nice if chargers indicated the balancing phase, went "Ping!" and switched off completely afterwards, but none do. I've searched in vain.Manufacturers recommend leaving batteries on charge for a long time (6,12,24h) from time to time. They wouldn't be doing that unless they are confident it is safe. Is balancing cells considered as overcharge?
Perhaps it is because (as far as I understand) balancing is done by battery not by a charger.It'd be nice if chargers indicated the balancing phase, went "Ping!" and switched off completely afterwards, but none do. I've searched in vain.
How an ordinary user would know how much of capacity has been lost?You only need to leave it on longer (6/12/24 hours) if the battery seems to have lost some capacity, something like 20%
Unless extension leads are carrying high current and they're very long and used while coiled. Not a problem for 2A chargers...As for extension leads I simply can't see any negative aspects of using them while charging batteries.
Communication between the charger and the battery's BMS would be required, but two wires are sufficient for simple messages (morse code perhaps, or some other with error correction), periodically stopping current at the balancing stage to send/receive those messages, after the green light goes on, until balancing is complete and the charger is instructed to turn off completely. This could prevent some fires?Perhaps it is because (as far as I understand) balancing is done by battery not by a charger.
My point exactly. 2A is nothing as long as you keep all of it waterproof. Even if for some reason I decide to plug there a combination microwave and surround HiFi system, what is the worst case scenario? Fuse would blow up?Unless extension leads are carrying high current and they're very long and used while coiled. Not a problem for 2A chargers...
As far as I understand it is exactly how it is being done. Battery is not overcharged or at least theoretically it is not. Otherwise leaving battery on charge for 12h would mean 100% guarantee of an explosion.Communication between the charger and the battery's BMS would be required, but two wires are sufficient for simple messages (morse code perhaps, or some other with error correction), periodically stopping current at the balancing stage to send/receive those messages, after the green light goes on, until balancing is complete and the charger is instructed to turn off completely.
It may be needed for charging rather than discharge. Can you measure a potential between the power pins and the centre pin? On mobile phone batteries they normally have 3 connection pads, two for power and one for sensing before charge. If I remember correctly, putting a 10k resistor between the sense pin and ground enables charging of the battery if you are powering the phone without a battery, or using an external battery.I though of that, however the 18V batteries appear to have the sam central connector;
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And for those you can get a power adapter that is only 2 wires;
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I have seen a video of someone using two of the 36V Bosch batteries to power a quad bike. He just put some solder on the end of a thick wire, flattened it with a hammer to make it into a 'blade' and shoved just two wires into the - and + terminals on the battery.
The danger is melty cable which could ignite, even if you're under the 13A (and 13A fused) limit of common garden extension cable, if used wound/coiled. Microwaves with an integral grill can be 2kw, most are under 1kw. Surround sound systems can be anything.Even if for some reason I decide to plug there a combination microwave and surround HiFi system, what is the worst case scenario? Fuse would blow up?
Maybe its a temperature sensor for the battery ?It may be needed for charging rather than discharge.
I did say 'seems to have lost', it's a typical question when someone noticed that the bars on the LCD battery meter went down more quickly than before. I reply that the first thing to do is to leave the battery on charge for several hours to make sure that the battery is fully charged and balanced.How an ordinary user would know how much of capacity has been lost?
agreed. The green light is a simple volt meter, it indicates that the charger voltage reaches 42V. If you want to balance the pack, you have to give it time. 15 minutes should be enough for regular charging.Otherwise leaving battery on charge for 12h would mean 100% guarantee of an explosion.
Indeed so.The danger is melty cable which could ignite, even if you're under the 13A (and 13A fused) limit of common garden extension cable, if used wound/coiled.