Badass / speedchip?

Chez

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I am thinking of getting one of these , the speed chip is cheaper but most recommendations are for the badass dongle . They look identical . Has anyone bought the speed chip ? Are they any good ? Are they the same product as the badass ?
 

soundwave

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soundwave

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o the ones on e bay tbh for the sake of 15-20 id buy it from bad ass direct as less hassle if anything goes wrong with it.

they can do a custom one with the old software but will not guaranty it will work.
 

Crockers

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I got a Speedup dongle that fits inside motor housing, and is switched on and off via a sequence of button presses, so is completely invisible. It also keeps the correct speed and mileage on the display unit, for 137 euros, similar price to Badass.

http://speedup.altervista.org/speedup-ribelle-real-speed.html
I used google translate, as I'm not that good at Italian.
Once you open the motor housing haven't you invalidated your warranty??
 
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NigelM

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I am thinking of getting one of these , the speed chip is cheaper but most recommendations are for the badass dongle . They look identical . Has anyone bought the speed chip ? Are they any good ? Are they the same product as the badass ?
Warning: I bought a speedchip tuner and have tried to configure and fit it but I can't get it to work. The seller - E Bike Tuning in Germany - don't answer my emails about a refund or exchange.
 

soundwave

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did you set the box with the software ie does it connect via usb?
 

soundwave

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Installation Information: The installation should generally be carried out by a specialist! Remove the battery before making any modification! Take the left crank arm by means of a stripper. Then the plastic cover of the engine must be removed for this Normally you need a 20 Torx wrench. If an additional shock protection installed, it must also be removed.

Now the two connectors must be unplugged

Then connect the female connector of the speed chips with the engine and the male with the plugs of electric bikes. Make sure that in the 4-pin connector, the lead colors are inden table occupied, see next picture. In the 2-pin connection, the assignment is irrelevant, we have therefore chosen the same line color.

WARNING: check that red-red, black-black, green-green, yellow-yellow are properly connected! An incorrect connection may lead to a defect in the e-bike! Install the battery back into the e-bike and take a short test whether the installation was successful. To do this, briefly press the Walk button (delivery status ON / OFF). If an installation is successful, you will now see 1.0 km / h = Chip ON, and when you press the button 2.0 km / h Chip OFF. After the test, the battery must be removed!

Pull the male connector again briefly from. Provided them with the supplied shrink tubing and connect the plug again. Now use a heat gun to shrink the tubing. If possible, use the lowest temperature level and do not stand too long in the same place to avoid the melting of the plug. The installation is now complete. Now fit again the engine cover, crank and battery. Have fun with the speed chip!

4. Disclaimer: The commissioning of the speed chip on e-bike is not allowed in the scope of the Highway Code. The tuned by the speed chip bicycle which makes manipulation of the speed may not be operated on the roads and in the effective range of the Highway Code. Warranty or guarantee claims of the e-bikes can be restricted to the dealer or manufacturer, or go out. The use is only permitted on private land or specially designated test or race tracks. The use of speed chips at your own risk and at your own risk. 5. Warranty: We are liable to our contractual partner for lack accordance with the law. In case of warranty please contact the dealer from whom you purchased your speed chip. You can speed chip with your proof of purchase and all accessories also to the following address transmission. Please ensure that sufficient postage. A claim under warranty is against defects in material and workmanship. Excluded from the warranty are batteries, wear parts and wear due to commercial use or accidents. The claim to warranty exists only if the receipt is enclosed. Star-Multimedia GmbH, Eichenweg 7 83278 Traunstein Tel .: +49 (0) 861-2090922, Fax .: +49 (0) 861-2090933 info@speedtuning.eu case of justified claims to ensuring you get a replacement unit. This Star-Multimedia GmbH explains that the speed chip Seeschlösschen in compliance with the essential requirements and other relevant provisions of Directive 2004/108 / EC. You fnd this statement on our website: www.speedtuning.eu 6. Disposal: - electrical equipment must not be disposed of with household waste, it is the European WEEE Directive 2012/19 / EU. For domestic use, the return is free of charge to local collection points. Of course, we will take back your old equipment and ensure that they are professional and environmentally safe way.
 

NigelM

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Sep 3, 2013
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Installation Information: The installation should generally be carried out by a specialist! Remove the battery before making any modification! Take the left crank arm by means of a stripper. Then the plastic cover of the engine must be removed for this Normally you need a 20 Torx wrench. If an additional shock protection installed, it must also be removed.

Now the two connectors must be unplugged

Then connect the female connector of the speed chips with the engine and the male with the plugs of electric bikes. Make sure that in the 4-pin connector, the lead colors are inden table occupied, see next picture. In the 2-pin connection, the assignment is irrelevant, we have therefore chosen the same line color.

WARNING: check that red-red, black-black, green-green, yellow-yellow are properly connected! An incorrect connection may lead to a defect in the e-bike! Install the battery back into the e-bike and take a short test whether the installation was successful. To do this, briefly press the Walk button (delivery status ON / OFF). If an installation is successful, you will now see 1.0 km / h = Chip ON, and when you press the button 2.0 km / h Chip OFF. After the test, the battery must be removed!

Pull the male connector again briefly from. Provided them with the supplied shrink tubing and connect the plug again. Now use a heat gun to shrink the tubing. If possible, use the lowest temperature level and do not stand too long in the same place to avoid the melting of the plug. The installation is now complete. Now fit again the engine cover, crank and battery. Have fun with the speed chip!

4. Disclaimer: The commissioning of the speed chip on e-bike is not allowed in the scope of the Highway Code. The tuned by the speed chip bicycle which makes manipulation of the speed may not be operated on the roads and in the effective range of the Highway Code. Warranty or guarantee claims of the e-bikes can be restricted to the dealer or manufacturer, or go out. The use is only permitted on private land or specially designated test or race tracks. The use of speed chips at your own risk and at your own risk. 5. Warranty: We are liable to our contractual partner for lack accordance with the law. In case of warranty please contact the dealer from whom you purchased your speed chip. You can speed chip with your proof of purchase and all accessories also to the following address transmission. Please ensure that sufficient postage. A claim under warranty is against defects in material and workmanship. Excluded from the warranty are batteries, wear parts and wear due to commercial use or accidents. The claim to warranty exists only if the receipt is enclosed. Star-Multimedia GmbH, Eichenweg 7 83278 Traunstein Tel .: +49 (0) 861-2090922, Fax .: +49 (0) 861-2090933 info@speedtuning.eu case of justified claims to ensuring you get a replacement unit. This Star-Multimedia GmbH explains that the speed chip Seeschlösschen in compliance with the essential requirements and other relevant provisions of Directive 2004/108 / EC. You fnd this statement on our website: www.speedtuning.eu 6. Disposal: - electrical equipment must not be disposed of with household waste, it is the European WEEE Directive 2012/19 / EU. For domestic use, the return is free of charge to local collection points. Of course, we will take back your old equipment and ensure that they are professional and environmentally safe way.
Yes I got a knowledgeable mechanic, who has successfully fitted several Shimano Steps dongles, to follow these instructions and it did not change the cut off at 15mph. Very frustrating!
 

soundwave

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i could try it on my bike but i have a performance motor and have had no updates to my bike since 2014.

it could be that the dongle now wont work with the latest updates ? or that one anyway.
 

soundwave

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if you send it to me and i can test it on my bike so it works do you want to swap it for my bad ass dongle? as i know it will work on a gen 1 bosch motor as tested it on another forum members bike that had a faulty sx dongle.
 

NigelM

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Sep 3, 2013
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if you send it to me and i can test it on my bike so it works do you want to swap it for my bad ass dongle? as i know it will work on a gen 1 bosch motor as tested it on another forum members bike that had a faulty sx dongle.
Thanks again. I really want one which will turn on and off. I could use the warranty and risk sending it back I suppose? Hopefully they'll exchange it. I've never updated any software. Happy for you to try it as long as I can still get a refund or exchange if faulty

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In case it's of use to anyone, I've fitted two ASA dongles. They're a doddle to fit and work straight out of the box. They even show the correct speed on the display. I would recommend them to anybody.

Fitting procedure:

  • Remove RH crank
  • Remove motor cover (about 4 screws)
  • Unplug two connectors
  • Plug in new connectors
  • Plug in old connectors to the connectors on the dongle harness
  • Reassemble.

That's about 15 minutes work.
 

glenwatt

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After a failure with one of the dongles.
Can anyone please advise which models display the correct speed on the 2016 Yamaha display in MPH.
 

NigelM

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Gloucestershire
In case it's of use to anyone, I've fitted two ASA dongles. They're a doddle to fit and work straight out of the box. They even show the correct speed on the display. I would recommend them to anybody.

Fitting procedure:

  • Remove RH crank
  • Remove motor cover (about 4 screws)
  • Unplug two connectors
  • Plug in new connectors
  • Plug in old connectors to the connectors on the dongle harness
  • Reassemble.

That's about 15 minutes work.
Can you turn the ASA tuners on and off? I now have promise of refund so might try this one.
 

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