Another E-bike Fire

[Waspy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67719955

 

[saneagle]

Statistically, it's going to be one of the 60% that aren't conversions. Probably best to stick with conversions then rather than buy ready made bikes.

E-bikes: 40% of fires from conversion kits - brigade says

Cheap and badly built kits are leading to the "fastest growing fire trend", the fire service says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[lenny]

 

[AndyBike]

Statistically, it's going to be one of the 60% that aren't conversions. Probably best to stick with conversions then rather than buy ready made bikes.

E-bikes: 40% of fires from conversion kits - brigade says

Cheap and badly built kits are leading to the "fastest growing fire trend", the fire service says.

www.bbc.co.uk

The 'ready made' being the cheap imports. You get what you pay for.

At least there were no fatalities.

 

[saneagle]

The 'ready made' being the cheap imports. You get what you pay for.

At least there were no fatalities.

You don't know that. I could just as easily say it was a Riese and Muller bike, and they dropped their Bosch battery while taking it off to charge. The charred mess certainly looked the same as one.

 

[AndyBike]

You don't know that. I could just as easily say it was a Riese and Muller bike, and they dropped their Bosch battery while taking it off to charge. The charred mess certainly looked the same as one.

Unlikely, companies like Bosch are the industry leaders. So comparing Bosch against the cheap crap imported stuff I suppose I can.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1777D/production/_130952169_e-bikefireshepherdsbush.jpg

Identifying areas ? I cant see any.

Perhaps that all in one steel crankset.

 

[saneagle]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1777D/production/_130952169_e-bikefireshepherdsbush.jpg

Jeez, another Riese & Muller. I'm sure I recognise the frame.

 

[AndyBike]

Jeez, another Riese & Muller. I'm sure I recognise the frame.

No no, thats one of them conversions without a doubt. You can even see the big hub motor on it.
Cheap tat cranks - Check
Hub drive - Check
Spare parts littering the room - Check

DIY for sure.

 

[guerney]

Worryingly, this tiny battery got very hot so I removed it. Now I'm even more worried because I've lost it.

Looking for a replacement, might use an external battery of some sort if I can't find one. This isn't my usual ebike battery. Since joining this forum I've become more likely to attempt repair of broken items, rather than throw them away.

 

[Saracen]

Have you noticed that NO, NO news/papers ever say if they had smoke alarms fitted

 

[saneagle]

Have you noticed that NO, NO news/papers ever say if they had smoke alarms fitted

True. They just want to put people off people buying ebikes with headlines like 60% of all ebike fires are caused by ready-made ebikes from shops. That's the BBC. Who's paying them to make stories like that? Or is it that the reporter bought a Kalkhoff that packed up after a week, and now he wants revenge?

 

[sjpt]

Interesting it is even getting mentioned on seller's sites.
The Argos page https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9543104 saneagle referenced on another thread says

• IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT CHARGING: ENSURE YOUR VEHICLE IS COOL BEFORE CHARGING AND USE THE MANUFACTURER'S CHARGER ONLY. UNPLUG THE CHARGER WHEN IT HAS FINISHED CHARGING. DO NOT STORE OR CHARGE THE VEHICLE IN A POSITION WHERE IT IS BLOCKING AN ESCAPE ROUTE, IF POSSIBLE IT SHOULD BE STORED IN A SHED OR GARAGE. NEVER LEAVE THE BATTERY CHARGING UNATTENDED OR WHEN OUT OR ASLEEP. .

 

[StuartsProjects]

Worryingly, this tiny battery got very hot so I removed it. Now I'm even more worried because I've lost it.

Look in the metal box where you keep your lithium batteries.

 

[guerney]

Look in the metal box where you keep your lithium batteries.

I couldn't possibly have placed them so close together, risking critical mass chain reaction and my town gone in a flash.

 

[saneagle]

I couldn't possibly have placed them so close together, risking critical mass chain reaction and my town gone in a flash.

And don't forget not to ride your bike anywhere near electric cars in case your battery sets light to one, then there really could be a chain reaction that burns down the town.

Can you imagine the future, where everybody has an electric car and it's rush hour so the roads are all jammed, then an ebike (60% likely to be a ready-made one according to BBC) catches fire and sets light to the car next to it

 

[Woosh]

Sam Evans on his YT channel posted a video of the newest Chinese Geely's cheap EV ($10,000?, 800km range), in which the 100kWH battery got removed, then placed into a freezer at -25C for two days then placed in a burning room for 4 hours. The battery is then put back in the car and the car drives away as if nothing happened. That illustrates how fast EVs spur innovations in batteries. Same with PV cells. You pay now $1 per W installed. We'll see £5000 electric cars in a few years. ICE cars are being phased out.
Geely's Game Changing Fire Proof LFP batteries: 500kw charging, 83.7% density (youtube.com)

 

[saneagle]

Sam Evans on his YT channel posted a video of the newest Chinese Geely's cheap EV ($10,000?, 800km range), in which the 100kWH battery got removed, then placed into a freezer at -25C for two days then placed in a burning room for 4 hours. The battery is then put back in the car and the car drives away as if nothing happened. That illustrates how fast EVs spur innovations in batteries. Same with PV cells. You pay now $1 per W installed. We'll see £5000 electric cars in a few years. ICE cars are being phased out.

Then you woke up. Never mind.

 

[Az.]

Can you imagine the future, where everybody has an electric car and it's rush hour so the roads are all jammed, then an ebike (60% likely to be a ready-made one according to BBC) catches fire and sets light to the car next to it

It is OK... we lived with "keep 2m distance" signs during pandemic. They will just put signs "Keep 20m distance to avoid chain reaction" on roads.

 

[saneagle]

It is OK... we lived with "keep 2m distance" signs during pandemic. They will just put signs "Keep 20m distance to avoid chain reaction" on roads.

Good idea. They could do it with those yellow cross-hatchings painted 20M on and 15ft off on every road.

 

[Craiggor 2]

Worryingly, this tiny battery got very hot so I removed it. Now I'm even more worried because I've lost it.

Looking for a replacement, might use an external battery of some sort if I can't find one. This isn't my usual ebike battery. Since joining this forum I've become more likely to attempt repair of broken items, rather than throw them away.


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My headphones had a battery like that. It would last about 5 hours I now get a lot longer.