Agattu vs. Pro Connect - HELP!!

[stokepa31_mk2]

Drink a pint of glucosade. Take 2 paracetamols.
Get out on the thing and give us a review ASAP.
Im very interested to hear if the 18tooth mod is worth it.

PS Anyone noticed there are a few more photos on the Tour de Presteigne site.

been out for a very quick whiz round for about 2 miles. I'm really happy with the bike. Supremely comfortable and with the 18 tooth sprocket, very nippy indeed. I got so excited I did not change the power setting off medium so lord knows how good it will be when I unleash high power mode. Really happy that I went for the 57cm as its a perfect fit for me (5'10. 31 leg). I think it would stand a 16 tooth sprocket as I still had more to give than the gear could take and I never dropped below 4th (no major hills on the route).

50 cycles delivered this morning. They kept me well informed and delivered to my neighbour as I was out (thanks Tom). PDI seems to have been done well even down to putting some locktite on the pedal threads (well it might be grease but i'm not sure).

The gay bars are giving me a problem. they look crap but are mega comfortable. Think i might try to live with them for a while.

I will post a review when Ive had chance to do a few miles.

Regards
Paul

 

[burncycle]

been out for a very quick whiz round for about 2 miles. I'm really happy with the bike. Supremely comfortable and with the 18 tooth sprocket, very nippy indeed. I got so excited I did not change the power setting off medium so lord knows how good it will be when I unleash high power mode. Really happy that I went for the 57cm as its a perfect fit for me (5'10. 31 leg). I think it would stand a 16 tooth sprocket as I still had more to give than the gear could take and I never dropped below 4th (no major hills on the route).

50 cycles delivered this morning. They kept me well informed and delivered to my neighbour as I was out (thanks Tom). PDI seems to have been done well even down to putting some locktite on the pedal threads (well it might be grease but i'm not sure).

The gay bars are giving me a problem. they look crap but are mega comfortable. Think i might try to live with them for a while.

I will post a review when Ive had chance to do a few miles.

Regards
Paul

I though the 57cm would be big for you at 5ft 10. Im 5ft 11inch and was advised to go for the 53cm.

 

[flecc]

I though the 57cm would be big for you at 5ft 10. Im 5ft 11inch and was advised to go for the 53cm.

The difference is very small and well within the stem adjustment range, and frame sizes are very personal anyway. It's not just a matter of height and leg length, but also BB to ground clearance and individual preferences. At least with the 53 cm you'll know it will be ok, while if the 57 cm is a touch too large, nothing can be done.
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[Cyclezee]

I'm 6'1" with a 32" inside leg measurement. I have the suspension seat post in the lowest position on my 53cm Agattu, 57cm would be way too big for me

John

 

[stokepa31_mk2]

I'm 6'1" with a 32" inside leg measurement. I have the suspension seat post in the lowest position on my 53cm Agattu, 57cm would be way too big for me

John

I think you would be surprised John. I can stand over the cross bar just fine (just touching my groin) and with the seat at the lowest position my leg is in the perfect position at the bottom of the pedal rotation. You must ride with a slightly more bent leg than me?

 

[Cyclezee]

Ah ha, it must be down to groin size (cahonnes) then

John

 

[stokepa31_mk2]

Ah ha, it must be down to groin size (cahonnes) then

John

Very good LOL

 

[HarryB]

This morning was my first journey into work with the 18 tooth sprocket and new hub all working correctly. Good news and bad news. I am afraid I am not getting on with the hub gears at all. I have been deliberately pausing between gear changes, but there were a couple of times when I put pressure on the pedals and I could feel the gears slipping. I think the problem is that the motor is providing power after you stop pedalling and hub really needs to be released completely before it will change cleanly. I am now pausing 3 seconds before applying power and this seems to solve the problem. Maybe it will improve with "running in", I hope so.

I deliberately left longer to get into work on an unfamiliar new bike but only five minutes or so. I was a bit shocked to arrive 10 minutes early. The problem was that the cheap lidyl speedo wasn't working properly so I had no idea of the speed I was going. I was putting in a fair amount of effort and the traffic was light(ish) due to the bank hols. However well under 50 minutes door to door is not a time I would ever do on the normal Torq. The Agattu certainly cycles better above assisted speed once you adjust the gearing so your legs are not going like whisks. I know there might be some power coming in at a higher speed but it doesn't feel like much. So apart from the hub gear problems I am happy.

By the way apart from the 18 tooth sproket I have also put on 35C Marathon pluses. Pumped up to 85psi they certainly seem to roll well and the bike is still comfortable on London's roads.

 

[flecc]

One thing you can do Hal when setting off from a standstill every time is thrust down initially very hard on the pedal for the first thrust. That "kick" will flex the pedelec drum assembly and promote it freeing up more quickly. Hopefully that will improve the running on problem sooner, cutting the power as you stop pedalling.
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[HarryB]

Thanks Flecc, I will give that a go. The journey home was an improvement, no slipping/clunking at all but I am pausing a lot between changes until run-in. I am really pleased with the bike. It certainly allows you to put more effort in for more in return. With the Torq the effort is all wasted as you are fighting the motor. Whatever way I look at it, 50 minutes door to door is quicker than any mode of transport for my journey (during rush hour at any rate).

 

[musicbooks]

This morning was my first journey into work with the 18 tooth sprocket and new hub all working correctly. Good news and bad news. I am afraid I am not getting on with the hub gears at all. I have been deliberately pausing between gear changes, but there were a couple of times when I put pressure on the pedals and I could feel the gears slipping. I think the problem is that the motor is providing power after you stop pedalling and hub really needs to be released completely before it will change cleanly. I am now pausing 3 seconds before applying power and this seems to solve the problem. Maybe it will improve with "running in", I hope so.QUOTE]

Hi HarryB,
I have found that after a month or so of commuting the gears have settled in and the change is easier with less crunching and slipping. It's a bit like driving a car. It's weird at first but after a while the pause becomes second nature. Warning though, don't let anyone ride it without full gear change instructions as I let my friend loose on it and he crashed the gears all the way round the block and I felt as though the gears were bad again.

However, I have to say my gears are still slightly out of synch and grind a little with occassional slips too. I am still trying to work out how to adjust but the clicking seems to be worse with the motor on going up hill. I'll have a go at adjusting.. following Flecc and others advice and report back.

bw
musicbooks

 

[HarryB]

Thanks for the reassurance.

I am sure it is only your gears that need adjusting as there is always some cable stretch after the first few weeks. Adjustment really less is than a couple of minutes work. Lining up the yellow dots on the hub using the cable adjuster on the gear changer. Easy peasy.

 

[stokepa31_mk2]

However well under 50 minutes door to door is not a time I would ever do on the normal Torq. The Agattu certainly cycles better above assisted speed once you adjust the gearing so your legs are not going like whisks. I know there might be some power coming in at a higher speed but it doesn't feel like much.

Hi Harry

really pleased to hear the sprocket mod is doing the buisiness. I too am looking forward to setting faster times. It feels far faster than my torq and more importantly the resistance of the hub is no longer a problem. Heartening to see Musicbooks is aclimatising to the gears and is not getting as much over run on the motor.

Regards
Paul

 

[oldosc]

Hi
Aggatu (new) have had no trouble with the gears on this, maybe it's because the bike I had 58 years ago had no gears, for my birthday My dad bought me a 3 speed Sturmley Archer..the guy who fitted it insisted on a 1 hour (for me) ride around, learning how to give a little 'kick back at the instant of change) then a cable adjustment.(no dots in those days..after a week I had to go back so he could adjust the pull due to bedding in, and cable stretch. I was told adjust every month...I guess like balence you never forget the early days (I sometimes had trouble with the derallier,)