May 21, 200817 yr Help! I ordered an Ezee Forte from 50Cycles back in January, which got delayed...and delayed...and delayed. It took so long - without any real light at the end of the tunnel - that I agreed to go for a Kalkhoff Pro Connect instead, as they should be delivered in time for May. But they've been delayed...and delayed...and delayed... I've just spoken to Tom at 50Cycles who can't even give me any delivery date at all now , but says he has an Agattu in stock he can give me. Any views on how this compares to the Pro Connect? What am I sacrificing? Thanks. PS Is anyone else as frustrated as I am? I'm beginning to understand why the electric bike industry in the UK is so slow moving!
May 21, 200817 yr Can I ask what you are using it for - commuting or leasure (or combination)? Might help to make an informed decision.
May 21, 200817 yr Author Both, hopefully. I have a commute to work each day, mostly along pathways and through parkland (Wimbledon/Richmond). I'd also like to go out with my sons along Thames towpath etc.? There's something about the Agattu that just doesn't look right compared to Pro Connect...just can't put my finger on it. Thanks.
May 21, 200817 yr Handlebars have been described (not by me) as being 'a bit gay'. I have changed mine to something similar to the Pro-connect and it looks much better IMHO. To answer you previous question. The main differences are the 8 speed hub and the lack of suspesion forks (comfort over weight). The Pro-connect is of course lighter because of the forks and lack of things like the dynamo hub. I don't think that the extra gear is anything to get excited about as, on an electric bike, gears have less importance. Unless you are in very hilly area you will probably start in 4 and go straight to 8 (or 7 with the Agattu). There is an issue with the 7 speed not being as robust as the 8 speed. There have been quite a few 7 speed failures but we don't know much about the reliability of the 8 speed in a pedelec bike. My only advice is to go over the specifications and see what you can and can't live with. For me I went with the Agattu because I do a lot of commuting (summer and winter), I value comfort, not bothered about the extra gear and just as importantly the Agattu was significantly cheaper. Edited May 21, 200817 yr by HarryB
May 21, 200817 yr Author Ha - girly was the word that sprung to my mind!! Now that I've put my finger on it, I'll have a closer look at the specs as comfort will of course be important to me. What do you mean though 7 speed failures? Sounds a bit alarming
May 21, 200817 yr Ha - girly was the word that sprung to my mind!! Now that I've put my finger on it, I'll have a closer look at the specs as comfort will of course be important to me. What do you mean though 7 speed failures? Sounds a bit alarming Gears 6 and 7 disappearing. Have a look at some other threads on the forum. Seems a rogue batch of 7 speed hubs are causing some problems.
May 21, 200817 yr I have been following my girlfriend into work for nearly 2 weeks. she has an agattu and i have a pro connect on order. i am riding a mountain bike with similar handle bars to the pro. i am finding that i want to push myself upright all the time as i am leaning forward on the bars. i am v jealous of zoe as her handle bars are very sit up and beg. so no back strain problems. drop handle bars were never an issue for me when i was a lad.so problems with something in between is a surprise. its not causing pain. just after 20 mins or so i want to sit up straight. i have been wondering if i will have the same problem when i get my pro. i might end up with roadster type bars on. my some silver streamers stuffed in theend for effect.
May 21, 200817 yr Agattu Handlebar Change Handlebars have been described (not by me) as being 'a bit gay'. I have changed mine to something similar to the Pro-connect and it looks much better IMHO. Harry, I've been thinking of changing my Agattu handlebars. Any chance of a photo of your bike?
May 21, 200817 yr Gay Bars Here is a link to a picture of the offending bars that my wife described as gay!!!! Flickr: stokepa31's Photostream Regards Paul
May 21, 200817 yr And here (hopefully) is a photo of the Pro Connect 45cm handlebars..... Pro Connect handlebars Perhaps not as straight as I was anticipating but comfortable when riding. plus a couple of others as I was previously asked to provide some: Rear Fullbike Battery Edited May 21, 200817 yr by rock_hopper
May 21, 200817 yr Handlebars have been described (not by me) as being 'a bit gay'. I have changed mine to something similar to the Pro-connect and it looks much better IMHO. Harry, I've been thinking of changing my Agattu handlebars. Any chance of a photo of your bike? [ATTACH]281.vB[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]282.vB[/ATTACH]
May 21, 200817 yr Gay Bars I'm quite happy with the standard bars on both my wave and diamond frame Agattus:cool: But I then I chose to have flourescent pink velcro on my hand splint:confused: John
May 21, 200817 yr But I then I chose to have flourescent pink velcro on my hand splint:confused: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- not suprising really, not one to mis some modification chance are we..
May 21, 200817 yr i am finding that i want to push myself upright all the time as i am leaning forward on the bars. i am v jealous of zoe as her handle bars are very sit up and beg. so no back strain problems. drop handle bars were never an issue for me when i was a lad.so problems with something in between is a surprise. its not causing pain. just after 20 mins or so i want to sit up straight. You might find it more comfortable if you adjust the angle of your saddle slightly. If you tilt the front up a couple of degrees it will make your weight significantly less likely to move forward on to the handlebars.
May 21, 200817 yr And here (hopefully) is a photo of the Pro Connect 45cm handlebars..... Those handlebars look more like the Agattu ones but in black. The photo on 50 Cycles' website look much less swept back than yours. 50cycles Electric Bikes UK - New Kalkhoff Pro Connect Pedelec Electric Bicycle High Resolution image and specification Grips look different too.
May 21, 200817 yr Those handlebars look more like the Agattu ones but in black. The photo on 50 Cycles' website look much less swept back than yours. 50cycles Electric Bikes UK - New Kalkhoff Pro Connect Pedelec Electric Bicycle High Resolution image and specification Grips look different too. I think your right there Harry. It looks like they have gone for the swept bars on the pro connect 45 (only available in step through). Maybe its down to the geometry of the wave frame. Regards Paul
May 21, 200817 yr And here (hopefully) is a photo of the Pro Connect 45cm handlebars..... Pro Connect handlebars Perhaps not as straight as I was anticipating but comfortable when riding. plus a couple of others as I was previously asked to provide some: Rear Fullbike Battery Those handlebars look ever so much like the Agattu's I would check that with 50cycles if I were you. Check out the photo and compair.
May 21, 200817 yr Bob see my post above. its because its the wave. P Oh, I hope your right Paul. I dont want those handlebars on mine!
May 22, 200817 yr Hi have had my Agattu three days now. When it first came & I unpacked it was struck how NEW it looked, really pleased like Flecc's report, first ride was 22 km to Rame head, which is not exactly Mountain territory, ( but goes from sea level to 350 ft twice and back again)but far beyond my capability at 70+(just) came home really pleased.but battery finished at 24K. Next day managed 30k on the battery not so fierce a ride came home again happy. Third day looked at the Bloody bike hated it..looks like the sort of bike a Dutch granny rides along the canal. Bloody sit up and beg bars, armchair saddle, hub dynamo..for lords sake, will have to adapt my carrier on the Motor home to carry the ton and a half it weighs. Had a real bust up with Jenny (my partner) when she asked me to cut up the cardboard case..was going to sell it on Ebay. Got out my Ridgeback..(mountain no forks razor saddle lots of alloy and 24 gears weighs 9 Kilos)((havent ridden it in Cornwall for thre years) cycled off in a huff. " miles later, turned round and came back, now I know why I haven't ridden in Cornwall. Took the lovely BLACK COMFORTABLE bike to LOOE and back pedaling pretty hard but did 44Km on one battery, up hills I would not have managed in my prime, this creature has given me back the countryside, can stop where you like, go down lanes to see. It amazing how the view changes when you are not putting in MAX effort and you are sitting upright. Next day
May 22, 200817 yr Ps sorry about this forgot to answer the thread..have a step through. They are right, it doesn't flex at all, and is a real asset if you have full big panniers full of shopping. Also looking at the pro it's a bit of an oxymoron a road cred bike (with a battery) uhuh. I believe 50 cycles have the step thro in stock (they did last week.
May 22, 200817 yr Ps sorry about this forgot to answer the thread..have a step through. They are right, it doesn't flex at all, and is a real asset if you have full big panniers full of shopping. Also looking at the pro it's a bit of an oxymoron a road cred bike (with a battery) uhuh. I believe 50 cycles have the step thro in stock (they did last week. I agree. It is not significantly lighter and the only thing of value is the 8 speed hub and that may only be for reliability (does anybody know if it is the premium version or is it just standard). It would make more sense if it was the same price, but I wouldn't pay any more for it as for sure, it doesn't cost any more to build.
May 22, 200817 yr Author OK - so apart from the gay handlebars - which can be changed - the missing gear (and gear issues) and the couple of kilos in weight, there is very little difference between the Agattu and the ProTec? When I compare the two together in this picture though, is that the motor on the front wheel of the Agattu? If it is, I've read somewhere that it would be fairly easy to pinch? Looking at the two bikes though, I must be honest, the Agattu does look a bit more comfortable. And although I'm only 47 - only?? - I like my ride to be as comfy as possible!! With no indication whatsoever from 50cycles on the arrival of the ProTec, looks like the Agattu is my only option?
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