27.5 bad for road use?

[soundwave]

is there any warranty left on the motor as it can be transferred on those bikes.

https://www.ebikemotorcentre.com/repair-overhaul-service/

the brose motor is the most expensive as it is a pita to get apart

 

[Kev.k]

is there any warranty left on the motor as it can be transferred on those bikes.

https://www.ebikemotorcentre.com/repair-overhaul-service/

the brose motor is the most expensive as it is a pita to get apart

Yes. Its got the full 2 years. Done 1000 miles.

20 hours to go on the auction, not 2.

Those prices aren’t bad. Similar to labour costs in a garage. Can live with that. I’m used to it.

 

[soundwave]

mhale make the motors for the sl but it is only 35nm of power and thats not much at all power wise.

there is also no service option for those motors yet but you really need to have a go on one b4 spending big as you might not like it at all.

 

[Kev.k]

I’ve not been on a bike for 30 years. I need all the help I can get.

Bosch was my preference. I wasnt aware of anything other than the main 4 apart from the bafang
motor that seem popular on Chinese kit bikes.

Yamaha are not in any of the bikes I was looking at but seem a good option if they are the easiest to maintain.

 

[soundwave]

well id think you would hate the sl then but is there no dealers local where you can try a few out?

thing is with the bafangs you can programme the controllers so you dont need a dongle to remove the speed limit

my motor has 75nm and my m8s has 160nm bafang hd and can hit over 40mph with the throttle.

off road it falls to bits tho but the bike is crap anyway.

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tho you will need a frame to fit that motor.

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[Kev.k]

I like the idea of a throttle. I thought that would be frowned upon here.

Are they discreet?

160nm sounds great.

 

[soundwave]

it is just a basic thumb push throttle on my m8s bike and uses it every day for 2 years no going to work and back.

but if you want to hammer it you will need a big batt like 20ah plus which wont be cheap like 600 quid.

my bosch 500w 13ah cost £633

you can also have a throttle with the cyc motors but the photon has only just came out.

you can get motors with way more power but then the size of the batt starts to get stupid big and heavy.
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[Kev.k]

The bike in the link is nice. Surely the police pull anything like that?

Ive been thinking I need to keep everything discreet and standard looking?

I like the idea of a thumb push throttle.

I did see a video on YouTube. The guy fitted a uprated motor to a Whyte bike and had his battery in a backpack.

I wouldn’t be anywhere near brave enough to have a 210bhp bike of any kind.

Love rwd high power cars though )

 

[soundwave]

like a stealth bomber or a suron you run the risk esp if u take the pi$$ but thats the same with anything like running down the road with a running chainsaw.

with the programming cable you can push these things alot power wise or more with a different controller.

 

[Kev.k]

I’d be happy with 35mph and plenty of torque for hills.

I wouldn’t take the **** at my age. Last thing I need is a broken leg or hassle from the police.

Would it be possible to gut a Levo or similar and put the new battery in the down tube?

This shop is local if anything is above my skill level. https://hardybicycles.co.uk/

 

[soundwave]

most of the new bikes use down tube batts but if you want to use a dongle to remove the speed limit you need space for a bigger front chain ring and some frames wont let you go up any bigger at the front esp on the levo.

if i hit 120 rpm at the cranks i can hit 39.6 mph but i cant keep that up for long and 52t.

 

[Kev.k]

I don’t mind fitting bigger chain ring.

Just want to avoid and visible batteries if possible.

You’ve been a great help mate. Appreciate it.

 

[soundwave]

38t wont fit or you will need to use spacers to push the chain ring out and screwup the chain line, they do it on purpose so a dongle wont make much difference anyway

 

[Kev.k]

I’m open to any bike. Not stuck on the Levo. Been looking at them because there a few for sale locally.

If there is a bike that takes a bigger chain ring with no hassle that would be preferable.

Was just looking at haibikes. You get a lot more for the money than with specialized.

 

[soundwave]

eMTB owners photo and ride thread.

Nice pictures soundwave. Good to see you away from the canal tow path! Yesterday I was riding with a mate in The Peak District. We rode 117 miles, as much off road as possible, (a lot using a gpx file route supplied by a local friend). Our loop was centered around Buxton. Not on ebikes, we had...

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[Kev.k]

Looks great mate.

I wouldn’t be changing if I was in your position either. 40mph is enough for me.

 

[Kev.k]

Not keen on the colour but I’ve seen it in green.

Seems a great price for a carbon bike.

 

[AndyBike]

seen plenty of others with snapped frames and carbon ones with cracks in them all

Ive seen pics of many expensive bikes that have cracked on weld seams.

watch Hambini and Peak Torque on YouTube.

just because it cost 10k dont mean it wont fall to bits or snap in half

 

[Bonzo Banana]

Yes. Its got the full 2 years. Done 1000 miles.

20 hours to go on the auction, not 2.

Those prices aren’t bad. Similar to labour costs in a garage. Can live with that. I’m used to it.

They bought an ebike for £11k and are willing to let it go for whatever it fetches at auction (unless they have set a reserve) and they only rode it for 1000 miles. Is there a story behind this? Ebike motor problems, excessive drivetrain wear, not confident in the ebike to work correctly. You see so many of these high end ebikes that get sold early and they are only a niche of the overall market. The average price of a bike sold in the UK is about £400 including ebikes and those figures are taken from independent bike shops, halfords and a few others. Not all sellers are included, I don't think ebay or Amazon is and of course aliexpress and personal imports aren't included. I could be wrong but it seems to me that a far higher percentage of these high end bikes are resold quickly. Of course you could make the case that there is more money tied up in the bike than cheaper ebikes so if people don't use them they are more motivated to sell as more money is at stake. The staggering depreciation hits people are taking on these ebikes. Losing many thousands of pounds over a short time. A well chosen 2nd hand bike and a mid-drive conversion kit could achieve a similar performance level for a tiny fraction of the price and have the ability to repair, modify and customise easily and cheaply. You can even move the motor to a different bike if you like the motor but dislike the bike. It's far more sustainable too.

I just think 'proprietary' is the thing to avoid in cycling. If a bike has a high level of proprietary components which means expensive to buy, expensive to repair and often impossible to repair then I avoid like the plague. It's a way of controlling consumers and milking them for money. Once you buy into their ecosystem then your fat wallet becomes an anorexic wallet.

 

[Woosh]

Not keen on the colour but I’ve seen it in green.

Seems a great price for a carbon bike.
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the Haibike is a good buy. You'll need to fit lights, mudguard, propstand, Schwalbe Marathon Plus puncture proof tyres and innertubes (they are not tubeless) to make it suitable for commuting. Bikes for commuting are for the best part utilitarian.