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Agreed Danid But what has EU done in past 15 years to address fact that Luxembourg , for various reasons but largest of them their tax laws, to change the fact that GDP oer head in his country is £65000 per head, whilst Serbia ( not even poorest) is £6000 per head...Yet EU is held up as paragon...

KTM It was an exaggeration. But you got the point. And BTW much of your past eu argument has been around defending free movement for economic ( exploitation?) reasons. Well could you please explain why now Alan Johnson ( a devout remain campainer) is saying free movement is totally unworkable...

And now Juhnker announces other EU members must not hold referendums!! That,s democracy at work from our unelected leader of eu.. Just to remind you...this man is the ex priminister of what has become richest nation on earth.. all gained out of other countries loss in tax revenue !!! Just think...

Ok flecc I,ll cross you off but hardly think experiences post WW 2 count for more than listed people,s opinion, ( its like saying their opinions / experiences count for nothing) but that's your prerogative. Lets face it OG says he doesn't want to go back to rationing ! So irrational reasoning...

And BTW the Richmond by election should be re run on a number of reasons. .The majority wasn't big enough, folk didn't know what they were voting for and will all change their minds after listening to Hartley Brewer. Besides it was only advisory.

i want to know why all remainers insist on ignoring Minford,Lyons,King and Hargreaves. At one time even Carney was saying same but he seems to change his stance every few weeks. Ok I,ll accept Flecs argument to discount Minford ( sort of) but KTM and Kudos are just so adamant we are heading for...

Nice Story Kiwi but your point ? By the way we can now get house decorated at £50 a room. We were paying more than that 20 years ago. Its great if you need your house painting and have a job but what about the decorators competing with folk working for £3 an hour...they sign on !! It all...

Kiwi I,m not claiming somewhere in eu bureaucracy there isn't a wish to redistribute wealth throughout EU and given a few thousand years the amounts they spend might work. But the entire policy is for lower paid to go to areas ,in theory, lacking in workforce. This intrinsically is unfair,it...

But Kiwi the eu does not use its budget to redistribute wealth. If I did would Luxembourg be richest nation on planet with Greece amongst poorest ??

Because many are heading for a dream that does not exist and if untapped workforce I'd in Eastern Europe why not develop that area with investment..The answer is because its better for wealthy nations to invest in themselves and expect cheap labour to up and move. Its the modern equivalent of...

Well written good explanation. How does eu address issue of loss of workers from certain areas ? How does it distribute investment fairly ? Two issues (IMO) it has failed to even grasp exist or are even related ??

Sorry to disappoint all you black pudding experts but all black pudding in UK ( made for sale) must be made from dried blood. Just google it. There are no uk suppliers of dried blood. And generally from cows blood but with pork fat added..!!! But back on topic.. I loved the eu graphic OG...

You missed out what the colours mean..dont try and explain cos no fecker will understand. But clever omission OG. ( ok Green is easy enough but rest nobody knows)

Actually Dave..black pudding in UK has to be made from dried blood. Under eu legislation we are not allowed to make fresh black pudding..unfortunately there is not an abattoir capable of drying the blood correctly in UK so it has to be imported from Spain. Their factories dont quite reach eu...

You might be right but I assume you think Cameron, Blair, Osbourne should escape prosecution. By the way our none democratic advisory referendum attracted a measly 72% turn out. Now you tell me which is closer to democracy. We,d get further away from the gangsters Dave. And we should not pay...

Just as an asside...the average turn out for MEP election is 40% across EU...reason... No fecker knows what they are voting for ? Its completely barmy.

Not much of a punch line OG...mine was funnier and probably more accurate. The relevant question is not where they sit but how they vote... And ofcourse they can. Look what Farage has done...all for your benefit..

Come on OG...thought this was some kind of knock knock joke...where,s the punch line. What groups do MEPs sit in ?? Answers on a post card...

So I can play stooge to your major role OG... I believe they sit in political groups. Communists to the left. Nazis to the right. Fascists somewhere in middle..err but go on then hit me !!! Enlighten us...

Small ones, so nurse can administer meds.?