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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well Cameron is now saying you cant have a single currency without a single fiscal policy ( lots were saying it , I even think someone on here said same and got shouted down) My point isn't really wether you can or cant but for Cameron to come out and say so now is sheer ludicrous and typical of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Labour must do something. They will become 4th party at this rate. Between Blair ,Campbell and now Corbyn labour has been destroyed.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes fair point. But when Katrina struck Mississippi almost immediately they had state troopers on scene and cash from central government. What help was eu when there was rioting in Athens over measures EU had enforced..??? Ps Apologies Kiwi...I thought it was derf. You cant have a single...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You cant compare the way you are doing Derf. USA has single controlling government, if a state has problems it can rely on the United States. Greece has to rely on bail outs. The Greeks were desperate to lower valuue of their currency. They simply couldn't. The infrastructure and support...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Good job we do..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Notice with interest how Cameron is now saying( what many economists have said before) that Euro is doomed. WTF did he campaign to stay in eu then. ? Or is it he thinks us leaving will bring it down..? Cameron is second worst priminister we,ve ever had. Blair takes that accolade.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You have more faith than I do Dave. Another few changes of government, we almost joined originally...If we leave we cant. Anyhow think we,ll know a bit more of likely direction post Sleaford result..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh, so you now agree its not right tax dodgers have found a haven on Luxembourg. Seems you thought it fine whilst they had them ( Juhnkers initiated change in policy to attract them). but when we change to attract them its not on. Hypocritical or what OG. And BTW my complaint wasn't the low...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We have same in diving.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    With second highest gdp per head in world ? Why not ?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Dave I absolutely agree with you. Any country needs power to devalue its currency to help competitiveness, its exactly the problem with Greece... Do you really think we could stay in EU indefinitely without adopting euro? I doubt it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    His crime was saying it as it was. Its the new diplomacy...Its a new world order starting...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Kudos Again a well argued post. Your argument re staying is a little self defeating in that you suggest we are rightly not in euro. This was argued by many as a mistake. I also remember us coming out of ERM. Both issues prompted experts to declare we were financially doomed. In reality both...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its a breed of welsh cat.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well there,s a shock...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That will have upset Juhnkers...and a few on here no doubt.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I,m in good company then Flecc.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not at all. I think the voting public saw it as binding, what it was is a different matter. If only advisory and not democratically enforceable ( which obviously has nothing to do with law) it simply will not happen. OG is contradicting himself. If Brexit happens ( which I doubt) it will be...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your google must be throwing up different explanations OG...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Flecc I said, and you even quoted me as saying so, the referendum was not viewed as advisory. Do you really think electorate would have bothered voting for an opinion poll. And strictly speaking the referendum was not legally binding, which is completely different to advisory, especially...