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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    (personal insult removed by admin) I don't know who is the most self opinionated, bigoted argumentutive remainer posting on here but you are certainly in top 2. I challenge you to find a post I have made initiating insult or patronising. Mine have all been in response to yours or Toms...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So why shouldn't you pay to use roads?? And why don't you need insurance?? And why no traceability?? And most of government revenue for roads comes from the tax on fuel, so I you use your bike over your car you pay nothing ??? And the 770 million comes from somewhere , if its for cycle lanes why...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nothing to do with FTSE. I have to live off my investments in stock market. Their capital value has increased since June 23rd and my monthly dividend payment is exactly same..???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My UK investments are doing fine ??? Really well infact..??? The article is very good..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Good post Kudos, well written and respectfull. You haven't changed my mind but good effort. On the effect of Italy on euro...Italy represents at most 20% of EU financial market. UK represents 100% of its own. Obviously what we do has more effect on pound than Italy does affecting euro. OG/...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep...ofcourse...but doing it again.." Maybe I should take an English refressher course" Maybe you should feck off. If I use maybe, apparently its not offensive.?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Kudos Don't you think all the argument ,procrastination etc is more damaging than either in or out. Its not the decision making UK look weak its the process we are going through now. Personally dont think in or out is such a big deal. The status quo will be maintained either way..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps I should but I know folk on here should be more tolerant of other peoples opinions, a characteristic sadly lacking. I believe for various reasons Italy will hold an eu referendum. You believe otherwise but I certainly dont need to be told to learn another language and read foreign...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No never..???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Bad for 5 years then little effect.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Had this referendum been like normal Italian polls I would agree with last comment. But it was not. You are doing same as country did prior 23rd June. Underestimating depth of peoples anxiety and feelings. There was a 70% turnout and 60% said No . That is massive in any country, unbrlevable in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Combine Rinzi,s departure with fact Hollande wont be standing next term and things are looking quite dire for eu/ euro. ( according to Guardian) We,ll see.. Its at best trying times for zone. The by election in Richmond pales to insignificance at side of this. Times Headline "Europe braced for...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    BBC World News saying same.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Because Rinzi was the voice of reason. ( He was trying to increase his power and reduce that of Senate)Far right stand a good chance of gaining far more control,they are asking for an election within week.( they won't get one, markets stabalised as Government now has 70 days to do something)...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Looking ever more likely Italy will be voting out eu , dropping euro. Their banks could be going under . Euro dropped a bit but recovered slightly . We think things are bad here !!!
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Couldn't find the raving mad emoticon... If they do one can I suggest your avatar perfect.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My sincere apologies Tom, interpreted that you believed much of what was good in UK had come from EU..You obviously think differently.. Having said that I don't think my post was that inflamatory, I was actually trying to justify your stance. You seem to be able to find insult....even when none...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agreed Flecc. I was going to make same point but got distracted. Real humour transcends race.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I,m not going there OG. Its OT. And I was speaking to Tom. Its rude to interrupt. Just because you have an opinion on everything doesn't mean you have to express it. But to explain. Tom puts our re-emergence as a relatively wealthy nation to eu. I put it down to Thatcher and her use if...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It could not be made/ filmed now Flecc, even though what you say is true.