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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I dont quite understand how you can argue individual autonomy for countries within EU and for eu to be effective. In my opinion they are mutually exclusive. Yes autonomy is great for your own country but that very aspect you mention produces the very issue condeming the EU to fail...how in earth...
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    OG How on earth am I making financial gain with brexit ?? Are you smoking some bad weed or something...you really are quite mad , in both senses of word.
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    Very good post Danidl, I respect your opinions but don't agree with them all. That's why we had a vote. For example, all eu on one currency,fiscal policy with such disparate economies with no balance procedures ( apart from bail outs) simply can not work. Its exactly why Greece and co have had...
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    OG Its plainly evident I support leaving and yes I said I didn't vote, I also said my name is Zlatan and I live in north pole. All white lies to try and reduce the ** leavers get on here.. Seemed slightly more balanced to claim I,d " sat on fence" Were you really christened Old...
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    I actually agree on both points flecc but firstly ... In grandaughters class of 20 kids,,she,s 8) there are 5 Punjab ,5 Urdu, 3 polish ,1 Latvian and rest English speakers,which is fine. Its great for her, seeing other cultures etc etc but 40 miles away sister's grandson ( same age) are all...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agree but replace with what? Clegg ? Corbyn ? They are both jokes and incapable of offering a viable opposition never mind running country... Blair ???? From behind bars ? They could have put cat in as priminister and not lose to Corbyn.( or Blair ir Clegg) Mind you cat would be better...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Daniel I,ve not answered your question because if you read thread there has been a whole raft of reasons you simply choose to dismiss,ignore or degenerate the folk making them. For a start there are many economists ( who I,ve listed time and time before) who say we will be stronger economically...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You really must be running out of feet to shoot holes in ...if you bothered to actually read the whole report , it neither supports or criticises leaving or staying. It gives requirements post brexit and poses questions about regaining funding and EU student quotas. ( eu were funding to tune of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That entire post is utter BS propaganda you,ve bought into. Aaron banks made CEO if Southern Rock Insurance, you dont achieve that without having credibility. He initiated leave campaign and believe he contributed £6kk towards it. Yes, he had harrasment claims ( charges dropped) over company...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So its ok for you Tom to insult all and sundry but Tillson insults you and he,s using ( quite correctly in your case) gutter language. You really are a hypocritical ar5e hole. And by the way, all your and OG,s ramblings merely reinforce all the leavers feelings. You and your ilk are exactly why...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's not new Tillson, OG and Tom have posted nothing but tripe. Rohloffboy...Good post. EU stated 3 years ago they wanted all zone in euro by 2020...
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    OG Much as I agree we live in an extremely divided country geographically, socially and economically its pure speculation this will be worse under Brexit. Infact since the country has got more and more divided over last 35 years there is evidence to suggest it will simply carry on doing so...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wonder if it would work on here... Woosh Be careful that's almost support for Brexit...( from your economist friend) I,m currently travelling through France...whats happened...they have been friendly in restaurants, helpful and polite in supermarket and even car hire bloke was pleasant...(...
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    One of Umberto 's more enlightened comments ( quote) " Social media gives legions of idiots ability to speak and be heard in a way only Nobel peace prize winners would have been in past, its the invasion of the idiots" Very apt for you Tom.
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    He,s not the only one saying it. American banks had a massive wake up call and made fundemental changes, many eu banks are making exact same mistakes...but you are right if predicting was so easy we,d all be rich...but I wont be investing in EU banking, ( but in a way we are) especially Italian...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Steve Eisman is predicting another euro wide financial crisis, originating from all the bad loans many of EU banks are holding ( especially Italian ones) Before everyone ddismisses him.he,s the one that predicted the 08 collapse. Film The Big Short is based on his story around 08 collapse.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nobody is perfect blew it. Flecc and I have disagreed and insulted one another but his intentions are honourable...I believe...We all need a bit of slack cutting now and again. Seriously , happy and peaceful new year. Everybody.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No , its site that must be mad for allowing it. Poster made an excellent point. This thread has damaged the image of cycling ...its already in a poor place with Wiggins and Brailsford , this thread certainly has not helped...far from it. Its actually appalling, gives a terrible impression of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wouldn't that be pointless ? Apart from eu being able to say we did this for you, when infact they didn't ... OG Re.Goebells...There are those that think man didn't land on moon in 69 , those that believe aliens landed at area 51, that CIA killed Kennedy..all with more justification than...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG We are all anti fascist remainer and leaver alike, it has absolutely nothing to do with the debate, yet Tom harps on about it continually. Arguing otherwise is calling leavers fascists by association...it us a completely spurious argument yet you support his ridiculous standpoint belittling...