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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I do see your point Flecc but exactly who are these unknown perpatrators ; what do they stand to benefit and how clever and capable would they have to be to pull wool over us, all of EU, Russia and,America. They know who has done it Flecc.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorry Flecc I think you are doing exactly what Putin wants you to do...but no doubt you think same of me with our government. At least the discussion is healthy...and allowed here..???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Mmm. Two people at deaths door. Area contaminated with a Russian made nerve agent fir which they should have records for whereabouts of every mg. Putin has an election coming up ( Sunday?) He campaigns on how he fights West. His poularity goes up and for a bonus he might even get billions back...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You haven,t read all Flecc,s posts ! ( sorry Flecc)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agree with some of that..but look at his methods for achieving that order. ( The inside Putin programme?) I really think giving Putin the benefit of doubt is the dangerous route. Yes, dont do anything rash.( wars have started for less).. Assuming his guilt is the safer option. Not sure how your...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It was nothing to do with bumping him off. He was just victim. It was a geo political act. The place , method and timing all important. The person not so. Putin thrives and gains support standing upto the west he demonises. Its a warning to his likely political opponents. He relies on our...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    T That's all absolutely true but it does not stop people being able to express opinions ( and without being called stupid by OG). I think Putin is responsible either directly ( ie under his instructions) or indirectly through poor security of the Russian nerve agent. Yes, to take action we need...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    On here, yesterday, you and Tom.( and others suggesting May organised it) Just read the posts OG.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If Corbyn's comments in the house were correct why has this occurred? ( Quote from Times) "A string of Labour backbenchers, including Yvette Cooper, Ben Bradshaw and Hilary Benn, then intervened to offer their backing to May, in what appeared to be pointed responses to Corbyn’s stance." Daniel...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps EU or remainers are responsible...demonstrating how we need EU ??? This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine. Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You should be fine for years OG..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Programme about Russia/ Putin on BBC1 now... OG will be saying dont believe it...! I listened to Corbyn in HoC and he said more than is suggested ...it was also his lines of questioning...his own , normally supportive MPs , were quite obviously not happy with him. You are being stupid again...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just for info. The actual existence of novichok ( poison used in Salisbury) is questionable. Its thought to be around 10 times more potent than VX or Sarin but circumvents outlawed status by being made from agrochemicals..( ie none of its constituents are banned). Plus Russia has refused to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nope...stupid.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Lets ask Frankie Boyle , he has all answers. As for WMD I believe that was more to do with Blair lying to us..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps you could explain why you dont ? And BTW I,ve said Putin was guilty throughout, I said we didn't have proof. Like I said you know more than MPs and journalists. You are being very very stupid now OG.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed, but Putin is also coming up for election and he operates under similar but more extreme principles. Have a read , yes perhaps biased but makes good points.. " Spy poisoning: why Putin may have engineered gruesome calling card. Insiders say all trails lead back to Moscow, suggesting a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You have fallen prey to Putin's lies. Calling me stupid for suggesting Putin is guilty is more than sceptical..Its ignorant and assumes a knowledge way over your capability. IMHO Putin is guilty. There are 16 labour MPs thinking same.( along with most Tory) Flecc I am not anti Labour , I,m...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    " According to the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg, some Labour MPs have signed a draft early day motion saying they “unequivocally” accept that Russia was to blame for the nerve agent poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia. Sixteen MPs seem to have signed it already." You will never get...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes we know exactly who did it, we simply dont have proof.