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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ( In response tto KTM's post) Agreed, but I don't think it was racist. Jeremy Corbyn did. She stated the truth. All the men so far prosecuted from the gangs were Muslim. In Rotherham all the girls ( 95%) were white English. I,m not putting a racist/ religious aspect to this topic. The...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Read the full article Just register a few details Get access Rotherham MP Sarah Champion: Left ‘failing to confront truth of sex crimes’ Sacked Labour frontbencher accuses her party Andrew Norfolk September 2 2017, 12:01am, The Times Sarah Champion says London and the north of England have...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, I,m stating facts and deliberately didn't mention any religion. You are assuming that, not me. There were criminals left unpunished . End of. Unfortunately , because of attitudes like yours we are not allowed to state the facts about the criminals. I have never assumed any predisposition...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Who ? The faceless bureaucrats all over Europe or those sitting in Westminster.?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You obviously dont live in Rotherham or Rochdale. But we,ve been here before...its getting OT. Wr,ve said enough. Dont get me started. Its a topic too close to home. There were / are thousands unrecorded. Believe me. That is a fact, I assure you. Many families refused to report to keep situation...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree with that Flecc but there are two important points. A) The Tony Blair administration was destroyed not as a result of unpopular or unsuccessful policies. Fact is he was a lying scheming PM who has tainted a complete section within our spectrum of politics. We don't want new labour not...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And in meantime hundreds of girls were ( and probably still are) being groomed by gangs.( gangs of a particular type ?)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nobody posts or reads more Tory articles than you do. And as normal you miss the point and regress to insults. " enemies of the people" You sound like Wolfy and his Tooting popular front.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's a compromise, the sort I,ve been saying all along. As to brexit bring the caause of all problems that's utter rubbish. And by the way OG you,d still end up with a government way past pink...would have rather a horrible tinge of blue....Personally would rather get a pink Milliband but your...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So what do people want OG ? No tories ? No pink mid ground ? No extreme left ? There,s nothing left ? Unless ofcourse you wake up and realise the policies and beliefs you support require a revolution and probably a damned civil war to get there...for what ? A pack of policies that will destroy...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, I see that but unfortunately we have to sell 4x4 crew buses aswell. You dont have to take that much business away before the whole lot crumbles. We all rely on cars / lorries for transport delivery of goods, which we all accept. What many wont appreciate is that the business , trade...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree and its a similar situation with the environment. We all know what should be done, but can't or wont. Look at the farce with plastic bags. Kids are sick of me saying world has gone mad.. Must be an age thing...we,re all doomed. Its as tho we know we are destroying chances of both our...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Too right....but that process started a good while before Brexit. Markets have been stagnant for years. ( not sure but I believe FTSE has seen its longest stagnation since it started . Unfortunately the down turn that was heading our way will be blamed on Brexit and may well be exagerated by it...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agree with that but many are putting the blame of our division on Brexit. Its much deeper than that and Brexit can neither fix it or exacerbate it, either way. And you are right, neither side of HoC are actually capable of governing country. Tories have proved it over past 2 years...
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    He still relied on capitalism to get country something like on its feet, and taking into account Churchills unpopularity in many quarters and fact he,d been war leader with a reputation of being rather a hawk it says much of Labour:s unpopularity at that time.( and how people realised Labour...
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    So presumably you still want a return to the great labour years of 1946..but don't forget many folk who know about history think he was worst priminister in history. Comments on Attlee... " not only that, he made rationing stricter, adding bread rationing in 1946 and potato rationing in 1947...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG We,ve been saying same thing to each other for months now, lets just agree to differ and that you are a befuddled old brainwashed angry fool with little else but idealistic , unrealistic, and unattainable goals nobody is even offering you. You dont want Tories, labour or a centralist...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Both the under 10's and disabled are a massive potential buying group. My 4 year old grandson is on his second balance bike, his little brother at 2 has just started with his old one. Recent trip to centre parks...every kid there from 3 upwards had some kind of wheeled device, mainly bicycles...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ???? Isn't the entire population potential customers. That's the idea of marketing, create new ones, not steal current ??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But you promote the damned paper and it seems spend most of your time reading it...or other rubbish like express. Enraged communists like yourself and Tom dont have a monopoly on disliking propoganda media, its like most of your arguments, based on generalisations and assumption. Disagreeing...