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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I see your point but with all respect to KTM he is representing a system that has worked out how to charge between 2 and 5 thousand pounds for a push bike.(As have most big brands) Pedelecs are a luxury item, and KTM about as luxury as you can get within a group of luxury items..The likely...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    When people stop coming through door, or buying online after a recent rise in.price the retailer and his network are bound to think the reason is the higher price. The only way to actually know is speaking to the none buyer. Doesn't seem to me that a price rise in.line with change in value if...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Even if pound and euro were parity ( as experts said it would be not that long ago) your average shopping bill would still be about same price in France , cheaper in Spain than it would be in UK. Pre ref. the pound was overvalued. Look at price of diesel, petrol,wine beer etc on continent when...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ofcourse they have been shouted down, insulted ; patronised and marginalised. Woosh deserves a medal for not rising to the flack he,s received. Yourself and Tom cant post without insulting or patronising someone..like ending every single post with a question, as you always do...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Did you attend any ?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Good post.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I,m assuming your graph has made an allowance for change in value of pound, inflation, rise in FTSE and house prices etc etc. Without which the graph actually shows a massive massive drop. ie a high of £186kk in 1998 from a figure of £155kk in 1970....roughly 18% increase 30 years. Without...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    McClaren ? Jaguar ? Lotus ?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's not quite true. It seems we will pay a premium for certain German cars even tho quite inferior to our own.( Audis and Porsche over Jaguar, which to be fair are now Indoan) The Japanese will pay way over odds for old British sports cars... We are all willing to pay over odds for what we...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And Danidl I have not accused EU as being responsible for this decline. The only point I,m making, and sticking to, is the fact that as much as our manufacturing industries were in decline I,d guess from 1950( ish) the massive decline was during 80's. And yes , coal was never an export industry...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Come on Flecc you know full well that's not case at all. Yes, steel industry was in massive decline by 1970 but the coal industry was still biggest employer in country way past 73 and didn't hit massive decline until 84 ?? . BL struggled on until 2005..Sheffield and Rotherham only became ghost...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What chance was that OG in EU. ??? We have no Uk industry...cars or otherwise.( apart from a few minor / specialist concerns) How on earth can you argue EU has helped UK industry. Its done nothing of kind. If / when we leave I suspect we will have to see the rebirth of industries. Why cant UK be...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    First of all decision as to wether they cheated is subjective. Anybody with any sense ignores what is written on the sides of buses and we know fir a fact all MP's lie. Its their job. Secondly , there are loads of instances where refs have been conned, penalties awarded which changes outcome of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Woosh I have utmost respect for your calm replies in the face of such provocation but dont you think all this is rather like Bobby Moore going into Germany's dressing room after the game in 1966 and trying to reason with their players that Geoff Hurst's goal did cross the line. You really are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    FTFY Yep..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, I,m not sure any of this changes anything. Quote from OG's article. After abandoning a project for 100-percent electric planes last year, Airbus decided to refocus its efforts on developing a hybrid model, inking a partnership with British engine maker Rolls Royce and German industrial group...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not sure,about storage of Hydrogen.( believe it can be solidified???) but on efficiency front using hydrogen in cells to produce electricity are around 60% efficiency...burning it in ICE is down around 20%....so even allowing for some inefficiency in motors using hydrogen cells could be above...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This post is a bit beyond me...Thought you were standing ? If so what policies to do what Makron did in France. I agree politics is corrupt to core but surely its a bit early for you to start with the defeatist attitude. Extreme left will never get in.( If they do will be purely by inheritance)...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Go for it Shan. I,m skint. Irma wiped me out. If you get in you could pay back investment loan ten fold... I trully believe somebody should...with right policies they would walk into no 10.. Suspect essential would be A) Just left of centre politics. B) Remain.( or promise of ref2) C)Something...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But that only makes somebody representing the alternative view more likely to get in power..so why has no one represented your views ? Yes, JRM is a smooth precise talker but that does not detract from.point he makes. " If someone wants to remain, stand for election on that policy" .Why is that...