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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There might be bias in commentary (not sure there is actually) but the factual content around how Corbyn has voted can not be disputed. He is without doubt a Leaver/Euro sceptic.. Wonder how his tete a tete went with Barnier... ?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I suppose JC could do it with just a couple. https://www.markpack.org.uk/153744/jeremy-corbyn-brexit/ Just to remind you where JC stands on EU.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I did.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You are getting the idea. Nice to see you are expecting Corbyn live up to such high standards.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It all depends why he was picked. Was it because was best candidate or because he, s a Corbyn. I suppose you could also ask why Corbyn's immediate helpers have just received 26% pay rises. Is it because they deserve them or because they work for Corbyn. Depends how cynical you are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Some people would justify bubonic plague in name of socialism. Come on flecc. Of course its nepotism. Out of all the possible candidates the best just happened to be called Corbyn.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You do, even I might, but the propaganda machine jumps on it. No matter how you measure it, rightly or wrongly, it affects voters opinions. He makes himself an easy target and IMO many of the accusations levelled at him are justifiable.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You obviously missed McDonell 's comments about his appointment. Now even if this is propaganda and nothing of kind was said Corbyn yet again walks straight into it being able to be said. That same department is arguing for face less, nameless appointments.???? That and other issues are as...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes, if you are trying to become PM. Without a doubt. I, m not advocating murder, crime or anything illegal or even immoral. It just smacks of weakness. (and not just this episode) Pointing way of world out to an offspring is a duty not a fault. Pointing out fact that he may well lose popularity...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    His dad sacked Hatton for being too militant...Corbyn Sacked Mss Champion for speaking the truth. Spot the difference??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You, ve been purchasing from young Corbyn.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's that or forget thoughts of power. Once in no 10 they can be idealistic.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's nothing to do with permission. It's all about popularity and timing. Just wait a while, perhaps until I, m in power. Personal sacrifice and greater good and all that. Isn't that what socialism is all about. I, d then make him an offer he could not refuse. Come on lads. Ghenkis killed his...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We need another Labour leader. But we knew that anyway.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He is working for McDonell at moment. One of their targets is to reduce nepotism. Open secret is he got job because of his name. Just a tad hypocritical. OG.. I agree, but it shows state Labour are in and I, d still bet New Labour would walk into power now, had it not been for Tony Blair and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Because the rest of us don't have father's leading a socialist party trying to gain power in a predominantly tory capitalist society. Bit obvious really.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So that's agreeing with me. Yes, his behaviour probably did hinder her popularity. I remember seeing her more distraught when he was lost than she, d been over Falklands. Of course it will influence voters.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Labour needs Daily Mail readers, they are all votes. Besides 15% of DM readers already vote Labour. (Source YouGov)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/825052/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-john-mcdonnell-staff-son-seb-corbyn And here is some more ammunition. Doesn't take much finding.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No , I don't want him in no 10 either but I want a Labour to stand a fighting chance of getting in there. A moderate , fiscal aware Labour government. Not this shambles of loony left group masquerading as opposition. Corbyn has set Labour movement back 30 years. His route to power is as OG says...