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QUOTE="oldtom, post: 408636, member: 10845"]It's the way they've been brainwashed OG. Some become divorced from reality and spend the remainder of their life operating as an automaton. It's a great reminder to the rest of us just how powerful a weapon propaganda is, particularly when directed...

One of the issues here is that until we joined the EU, we had very few laws, commonsense used to prevail. One example being the situation when it snows, or we have ice on the pavements.It was always accepted that you should be careful and walk/act accordingly. Now, it is always someone else's...

It is a crying shame. So who do you think has made these EU guys feel that they are not wanted. I would suggest that it won't be the odd yob, that may or may not have voted Brexit, rather, it will be the remoaners who have continually spouted doom and gloom awaits us and indeed anyone else who...

OK that's fine, now shut up and let them get on with it.

Well done! Took a long time to hear it but, no problem I forgive you.

Round and round we go - it's everyone else isn't it OG?

Now tell me that you are not rerunning the Referendum.

Trouble is you wouldn't recognise a Turkey if you saw one.

Reminds me of our trips to the US!

Pot, kettle, black comes to mind here - you are a master at precisely this OG.

It might not be such a bad thing. Having just driven home, in the car I was tuck behind a group of cyclists for at least 3 miles. Absolutely no regard for the fact they were both slower and more vulnerable. Times certainly change from my younger days on a bike. We obviously need defined cycle...

Do you honestly think that the LSE is capable of producing an unbiased report on this matter?

Very similar but, there are more turkey's in the EU?

Bits of them, come on OG you should be more 'honest' with your comments. We are still going to be trading with the EU whatever happens.

What utter nonsense Tom. The middle paragraph is just fine though. I'll give you that the ordinary people of Dundee are very charitable but, so too are the rest, including the occupants of Glamis Castle.

Again, more than a hint of truth / sense in this, but, that is of course true of just about any trade - no guarantees. So, on that basis why choose to link this with Brexit, it could happen either way and you are in no way able to guarantee that opinion, either way. If you're suggesting that...

Jacob for a start, swiftly followed by George Osborne and even some on the Labour benches - got to go Black Tie event - not too many plebs there I hope! But it's in Fife George, so who knows.

With you totally on this, not all politicians are bumbling idiots and many are able to see the bigger picture. Sooner we break out of the current malaise the better.

Our obligations would equally fall, we are not, overall, a beneficiary of the EU. We will be able to chose for ourselves where the money goes - hopefully, we will get it right. Perhaps, I should add that Scotland is unlikely to be an overall beneficiary either, should it go it alone.