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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Good post flecc.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Was that silver from a Barnsley market with hall mark scratched on?? I, ve got loads like that.. My step father always did well with his investments and around 25 years ago, when I was just starting investing, he was in hospital. Whilst there he phoned and asked me to buy quite a considerable...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-rejected-contracts-and-a-hollywood-movie-how-uk-struck-deal-to-guarantee-vaccine-supply-12204044 Seems Hancock did actually do something useful. Worth a read. Good old Hancock... That will get OG going. Flecc My apologies, you are right, assuming you took...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Thinking for yourself is fine, deciding you don't want to be vaccinated same, deciding you do and thinking waiting for 2nd is not a brilliant idea is also fine. What is not fine is accepting first jab willingly and then spending hours and hundreds of posts explaining how bad an idea it is is...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/31/success-of-vaccine-rollout-pushes-tories-ahead-of-labour-in-the-polls Seems most folk at moment seem to think Vaccine programme is doing well. And that's the Guardian... If you want a fair guide has to how public are seeing things... Read OG and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your first compliment in four years.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/31/european-press-reacts-eu-covid-vaccine-row And this is the Guardian... Worldwide vaccine figures(%age of target reached)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well I strongly object to you calling such as Chris Witty lackeys.. And your facts are wrong. The advisers never ever attempted to or planned on going for herd immunity. In a briefing PV was asked at what level would it be achieved. He explained the concept but never even suggested it was a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I sometimes wonder if I, m arguing with a Russian bot trying to undermine countries efforts. Amazing thing they don't see it as at all damaging. If one person chooses not to have vaccine because of their ramblings and then develops covid??? That's the issue I find offensive. They have had...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think we should sack Jonathon Van Tam, Chris Witty and Patrick Valance then appoint Flecc, OG and Danidl.. Job done. These three know way more than those government lackeys. Its pointless making any points on here. Complete waste of time. If at every juncture folk just dismiss folk making...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Careful what you wish for Flecc. EU have demonstrated their capabilities brilliantly. For their sake she should shoulder blame and leave. If she doesn't it's another one of many growing arguments against EU..???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is that ever going to be an option? Trying to imagine logistics of folk being able to chose which vaccine they have.? Out of interest Flecc do you have yearly Flu jab?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed but a much better position than no vaccination. Which is dilemna our govt dealt with. The EU aren't even facing that dilemna. They don't have enough vaccines for either strategy.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We were talking about vaccines. We actually haven't a clue as to why some countries fare better than others. (Belgium has suffered terribly) We can be objective about vaccines. They are now available. It's a binary choice now for them. You either get one in time or you don't. The UK has...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ours or EU? Ours because we reacted quickly, ordered vaccines prior to approval (actually pre trial) EU delayed, discussed, procrastinated until trials and approval passed. (read the. Gov article about Kate Bingham) Then EU try to cover up mistakes by blaming AZ (and to a lesser point blaming...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And your point? Is he wrong?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think we should ask admin for a repeat imogi.. You, d have a few thousand of them by now. You were wrong first time and repeating it doesn't change anything OG.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Brexit Britain has shown Europe the way, writes DR GUNNAR BECK https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9205493/Brexit-Britain-shown-Europe-way-writes-DR-GUNNAR-BECK.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead I know it's Daily Mail but chap writing article is a German Doctor/MEP...???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It has been rushed because it has to be. The reasons behind the delay have been well explained, are justifiable and its a pointless repitive argument now. Yes, we know you wanted your second jab earlier. There are millions and millions still awaiting their first... Billions in fact. Grow up.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, m afraid he doesn't see the damage he does. He just sees it as speaking his mind, for which there is a time. But it is not in the middle of a pandemic with literally thousands of people dying. He passes that off as somebody else's responsibility. Blame Boris. He doesn't see his attitudes...