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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It had a Hull post code... And was sort of bog shaped...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not defending cutting restrictions, think we should stay locked down until absolute minimum of cases but 25k is 13k less than a week ago... Going in right direction...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/police-incident-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-storage-plant-wrexham/ WTF
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You mean the 52% that ran away from Labour...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Get his autograph for OG...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We, ve had a relative die this morning. She was 97, has had cancer for last 6 years and various other issues. Also had an uncle die about 4 weeks ago. He was 89.He,d had prostate cancer for at least 10 years which had spread quite widely 6 months ago. Both gone down as Covid.. (Relatives...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I suspect people on here are capable of saying it without letting it change their behaviour. That is not the case with most of nation. Many will say"well he drove all over, why shouldn't I... " Its not just Cummings its our blame culture. " not my fault" That was endemic years before covid...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I know it sounds like I often defend BJ/Tories and indirectly I suppose I do, for which I apologise. Without doubt they could have handled it better. But whilst ever there is a target to blame, to deflect people's own guilt people will use it. People no longer take personal responsibility for...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agree... Vaccine won't do it all. We, ll need restrictions on our freedoms as well. Not sure folk are willing. They will see numbers drop and go out and party. Numbers will go up, then those same folk will look for somebody to blame.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You have a point but according to ONS only 1 in 50 of us are infected... If we all were that puts 3% of us in hospital. I, d guess NHS would collapse at 0.2%???probably less?? Can't believe they are discussing reducing restrictions..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, the stuff coming out of both Israel and Germany is odd..... Leave it to OG. He understands everything.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, maybe you don't.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-mutation-rate.html He reads the articles.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Be careful what you wish for. You might get Michael Gove or Ian Duncan Smith,who has argued throughout for far less restrictions, no lockdown..???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Figures I saw suggested 80% of cases are either asymptotic or slight to fairly bad symptoms but no treatment or hospitalisation. Of the 20% with severe symptoms rougjly half wll require hospitalisation and of those a quarter will die.. So for 80% covid presents from a mild cold to mild flu...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    According to World meter Germany have had 54k covid deaths and have a population of 95 million. First, I wonder what criteria they use for recognising a Covid death.. And allowing for our smaller population that is along lines of 35,000 deaths... Would country accept lockdown and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w There is some good news if you look hard. In general it won't go down well on here..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They have 6 million empty ones now. Surely they reuse them. (yep, I know a vial has 4, 5 or is it 6 shots) but you get the point. Vaccinations will be at 7 million sometime today..(out of 44 million)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Bleach... Saw that on Twitter once.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Rants... Hypocrite. Again and again......... And again..