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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I didn't say you were living in past at all, you obviously are not. You made an error over the Champion /Corbyn episode and combined 2 events (her resigning twice) into a single one.. The two events were a year apart, perhaps indirectly linked but the crux of situation was Champion was sacked...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A typo. Anachronic. Example, saying something happened in 2016 when it actually happened in 2017 and then deciding it was a single event. An error in timing. Anachronism. From Latin. Chrono... Time.. Ana... Error, wrong, misplaced. A word you should recognise Jonathon. As for inquisition, it...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not quite Jonathon. I could agree with you over Champion thing, but then we, d both be wrong wouldn't we. Champion was sacked/forced to resign over her comments about girls being abused by gangs of men. Your comments about EU are anochronic, irrelevant and nothing at all to do with the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree with all that Woosh. Not sure Starmer was even head of CPS when Saville should have first been prosecuted but even if he was he can't act against either advice from underlings or evidence they provide. The Police /lawyers build case , send info etc, he makes decision based on what he has...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    At time I had a mate quite high up in BBC. He reckoned they, d known about it years and some places/stations refused his admission on premises. Saville thought himself above the law, which he was for a while. Why nothing was done is sheer scandal and as I, ve said earlier, both this and problem...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If you took the trouble to read your own wiki link you would realise you are mixing up 2 events separated by about a year. Yes, she was sacked (or forced to resign?) for reasons you list, but then reappointed, only to be asked to leave again. Your incident is dated 2016,the one I, m referring to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Jonathon. https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/sarah-champion-was-sacked-by-jeremy-corbyn-over-sun-article-on-sexual-exploitation-of-white-girls Open to interpretation I suppose. I, ll accept your apologies gracefully. Unless ofcourse you think the last comment is about EU.??? Basically...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, I never mentioned Saville. I made the point way before all this kicked off that Starmer refused, or said there was insufficient evidence, to prosecute or conduct an enquiry into the widespread abuse of girls, at the time thought to be Northern towns but later realised many towns and cities...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://road.cc/content/news/pedal-me-bans-cargo-bike-riders-wearing-helmets-290133 Think Flecc said this years ago.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I was interested in retailing efoils. Got access to one for own use, have a foil board (home made!??) for behind boat and have windfoiled quite a bit. Personally now find them a bit calm, slow and not as dynamic as ordinary board sports. (especially so with windfoiling versus windsurfing) But...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed I,m in dispute with suppliers at moment. Could cope with 3 months but 4 plus with no definite date makes logistics almost impossible. Had no issues at all with stuff from within EU??? (few bits and pieces from Germany, bulk from Slovenia and on stuff I deal with negligible price increase)...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You might be right but doubt it Woosh. Starmer has upset many in Northern towns around the Muslim gangs issue a few years ago,but generally folk have short memories if there are benefits elsewhere. On the import issue from abroad.. I often buy specialist water sport equipment. (custom built...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Socialism is fine, it's the pretend socialists that let side down. https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/polling/2022/02/why-is-labours-poll-lead-over-the-tories-falling
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Rather hypothetical Woosh. And since the existence of pure socialist governments are virtually none existent at moment its difficult to suggest a workable model.. So, I, ll modify question a bit.. There are numerous Social Democratic societies that have done well, so perhaps a system along lines...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How many past labour movements would Rayner, Nandi, Abbott, Corbyn or even Starmer have risen to higher echelons in. Say what you like about Blair and Campbell they were at least intelligent, competent, astute and well organised. Both spoke well and would have fitted into any Labour...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't doubt any of that. It is high time Boris went, but you fail to see or accept the irony in the situation. How bad has Boris and Tories got to get before they are seen and actually are worse than alternative. You don't see point I, ve been making for months. Yes, current Tories are a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not really OG. I don't think current Labour are real socialists at all. No need to bring my logic into it. Simple reality is Labour Party are still fractured between Blairites, Corbynistas and Starmer and his wokism somewhere in middle. Just don't think they are capable of organising party let...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As you say, we will see. Tory party are already maneuvering to dump blame of parties etc onto Johnson. (Theresa May's line of questioning today) By next election they will have purged party of all seen as transgressors during Covid lockdown.. Perhaps if Labour purged itself of Starmer they might...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think it's time you woke (what an apt word) up with Starmer. He will never win a GE. And as you say Corbyn has lost the whip and failed in attempts to get it back, this very situation simply adds fuel to an undivided party. If he gets whip back kiss election good bye. If he doesn't, chances are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Depends on the opposition party, so without doubt yes. How many times Woosh. When Labour offer a viable alternative with a real leader I would vote for them. You say repeatedly I hate Starmer/Labour. Not so, I see them as utterly useless, split, divided with wrong priorities, and a riduclous...