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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That sure as hell isn't unique at moment.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But the ONS is part of the conspiracy Woosh. We can't believe them. (Don't have a sarcastic irony emoji)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is the trouble when none maths trained folk start reading conclusions from data drawn up to mislead in first place. For a start the unvaccinated now represent a generally healthier group than vaccinated. (apart from fact most I know smoke weed just to help their defunct reasoning) and a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, my mate won't use Google anymore. Apparently its corrupted (by Bill Gates) and will corrupt all its users accordingly towards World Government politics. That's utter BS aswell.. Other funny one is World Alliance of Doctors. Good god, aren't we in a mess. Everybody and their brother has a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Come back Polly.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Flecc, your final analysis of whether to have vaccine or not is not in dispute. Yes, ofcourse we all know you support its use because you had it. You made that binary choice of yes, or a" 1" in binary.. Yes, you had it. Fine... But the arguments you offer could be and are used by many to refuse...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Pretty certain it is not all that has been happening Flecc, our ICU is 45% full of unvaccinated Covid patients and my heart operation has been delayed by at least 6 months..??? Irrespective of situation London is in now or how it got there is generally irrelevant. Everybody who can have jab...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Brilliant...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, d totally agree with that without the tory bit. I must admit tho that performance made Rayner look reasonable and Starmer positively admirable. I think his days are numbered.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It was terrible. I believe one of questions from floor was" Are you alright PM".. Don't think any of it was an act either.. Awful impression..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't beat about the bush JC... Come straight to point why don't you?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Soundwave with exemplary explanation of why Cannabis must remain illegal and law be fully upheld. Amazing isn't it. Refuses jab (I assume) but fills his lungs with totally untested, uncertified, none standardised weed grown by some unknown bloke who is getting rich on proceeds of perhaps a 1000%...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Flecc, you are discussing the reasoning behind having the vaccine. You take the decision based on research or advice from NHS but it's impossible to be anything but a binary decision. You take it or you don't. The level of protection it affords might be somewhere between 0 and 100% protection...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Flecc you disagree... But had vaccine.. Odd. And perhaps not so learned then?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, it's a binary decision flecc. You either have it or not. If you, ve decided to have it and had it. That's it. You, ve had it. To then go on and criticise it is entirely different to saying we could do with a more efficient one. Of course we could. To say it's improvement is being delayed for...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not sure point you are making here. Where would UK be without vaccine and its high early infection rates? Are you suggesting we, d be in exactly same place, a little worse or far worse without vaccine(s)? I, d suggest evidence (as mentioned by Danidl) says we, d be in far worse place? ICUs full...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, not saying anything of kind. They also said we could see 500,000 dead... And as far as I can see life is absolutely as normal. No masks, very little social distancing, pubs, arenas, restaurants, schools, transport and colleges all open. 45k infections yesterday. How many and where would we...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If that's supporting current vaccine just glad you aren't against it. It certainly sounds same as rhetoric from anti vaccine folk I know.. Bill Gates or Big Pharma getting rich.. Its odd isn't it. Big bike companies have made more money than any time in history. Perhaps they, ve had a hand in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Cockroaches for starters.. I, ll stick with Prawn Cocktail thanks.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Both my grand fathers, father, mother, 2 uncles and mother in law died of smoking related disease. ( most of them lung cancer) I, m first male in my family to get past 55 in 3 generations. (I don't smoke and never have) Dad died at 55...in 1985...lung cancer. Smoked all his relatively short...