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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And killing thousands upon thousands of Ukranian/ Russians not to mention destroying City after City, risking nuclear disasters, nuclear war and using nuclear deterents as nuclear threats. Putin and his regime are worse than the Mafia. Signs have been there years, we now have definitive proof...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Trouble is nobody knows what Putin really wants. Conditions mentioned in peace talks do not seem as severe as original, but he's now a proven liar. Mentioned earlier his conditions ask for the two separatist regions to come under his control / sovereignty along with Crimea.. No mention of Kyiv...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    On another issue. Putin has said his demands are Recognition of the 2 separatist regions. His continued control of Crimea. Demilitarisation of Ukrain. (becoming neutral?) ???? Anybody any thoughts? That sounds better than current situation? Could Ukraine keep sovereignty and Zelenskyy...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    O Ofcourse you can, and should. It's healthy. Think we should judge each article on its merits tho, rather than who is saying it. DM occasionally makes good points. Times occasionally terrible ones.??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/3/4/china-can-help-end-the-war-in-ukraine Interesting article about China and its changing stance on Ukraine. (Initial advice to Chinese in Ukraine "Put a Chinese flag in your window"... Now its get out.. They are only ones Putin will listen to.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.newsletter.co.uk/business/ni-built-missiles-may-have-halted-40-mile-long-russian-convoy-3594143 ??? Built in Belfast.!
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agree re effectiveness on NLAW and other systems but as Flecc said the number of troops in each Baltic country is minimal. Air power, Stingers, NLAW etc would take their toll but its unrealistic to think forces in Baltics could prevent invasion. Articles last comment is this was strategy for...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/nato-ready-repel-russia-baltics-183719 The plan has always been not to hold the Baltics but to escalate conflict to places Russia would lose.. But would a modern NATO actually do that?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't think that's the only issue Flecc. Ukraine for years has been inundated with Russians supporting Putin. They, ve caused all sorts of issues for Ukraine.. Stopping men leave is also an attempt to stop those same folk leaving masquerading as displaced Ukrainians. I know it's only natural...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is quite a big and welcomed action from China.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, ve been shocked at lack of air power Russia seems to be utilising but they over flew Swedish Air space (Got Island?) this morning. (which is a disputed territory according to Russians)??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/mar/02/john-mcdonnell-and-diane-abbott-pull-out-of-stop-the-war-rally Think Starmer, despite everything I, ve said in past about him, has got my vote this week. Thought he was good in PMQ and his stance on this has been good. First time for years HoC...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I read the link twice and still couldn't work out what implication rule actually has. The odd thing to me was a NATO member in theory defending our Southern flank (articles words not mine) do so with Russian anti aircraft missile systems.. Perhaps fitted with friend from foe differentiation...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree with that, but long term policies are already changing. There has been more change in attitudes, commitments and opinions in past week than previous 20 years. But I don't think we will see NATO even policing a corridor. Putin might accept Chinese peace keepers on ground but a corridor...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://newsfeed.upday.com/?aid=DTZrTaAx2T4HJnpQCChDlg-en-GB&channel=all_news&app_name=huawei_assistant&category=trending Turkey really has manipulated itself into a contradictory position on many fronts. Upset NATO and Russia..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/03/putin-invation-ukraine-peace-dividend-russia How times change, in a week. Guardian advocating massive increase in defence budgets.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree, what's happening is terrible but not to extent it could be.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Mmm. Its not the death... Its the journey to it..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Mmm.. Spending 40 years in Spandau prison and voluntarily ending it suspended from a rope is not what I, d call glorious.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think Hess piloted himself and bailed out, parachuting into Scotland. It was actually no mean feat of navigation, compass alone and at night. Didn't do him much good though... His end was hardly glorious.