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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If only to amplify your answer... My daughter was in a taxi the other day ,and the driver claimed he was just back at work having had Covid. He got it last February March , prior to vaccination in his age group, then was double vaccinated , and again succumbed last October. There is probably...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Actually there is clothing which creates heat... I bought a Regatta coat at about 90 euro, reduced from their list price of close on 300... And no since there are permanent sales , I actually don't believe the list price thing. Anyway it is part of a voltrol range . You slip one of these usb...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But flecc, that is exactly the same with any of the other vaccines as well. No vaccine guarantees immunity, they all have limitations. CDC website... The MMR is 97% effective against contracting Rubella MMR vaccine is very safe and effective. The mumps component of the MMR vaccine is about...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "In immunology, an antigen is a molecule or molecular structure that can bind to a specific antibody or T-cell receptor. The presence of antigens in the body may trigger an immune response. The term antigen originally referred to a substance that is an antibody generator.".... Wikipedia Note...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You might like to revise your opinion of vaccines, considering that the Polio vaccine was LESS effective than the current Covid vaccines. Fortunately the transmission rate of Polio was slower and people were more proactive in taking it. Again and again the point needs to be made that the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The function of a vaccine is to generate antibodies in advance of a disease . The fundamental point is that the vaccine does not in itself treat .it . They prime the immune system ,which then does the business. It is great if they succeed in stopping the infection at the front door, but that is...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If you read my response to flecc, you can see what I am alluding to. That you are choosing to call immunity, is what I would call susceptibility, and we all have this to differing degrees. The only way to test for immunity is the time honoured way of testing. You take a population had infect...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Of course in that context you are correct and we are in agreement. But Internet usage is equating "Natural Immunity " as that which is acquired during a live infection from the full active Virus . They are trying to make a distinction between that and an "unnatural" immunity from a vaccine...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You may reasonably say so... But that is not immunity,it is statistical chance. Just like fleccs entire family could smoke like chimneys for decades and not succumb to cancer , whereas others have no such luck. . Just some people have better genetic makeup against certain diseases and others...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is no such animal as" Natural "Immunity to Covid . There is only acquired immunity. Those who have been infected by the full live virus, and have had a full immune response have acquired immunity and it may or may not be better than that achieved by other methods. The evidence for...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I am delighted you got sorted.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The nature of civilised debate is to identify and clarify any issues... . Just to make certain a few remaining points of difference remain. 1. I believe that that UKs entire handling of this has been cockamamie. They had to reduce the amount of virus exposure 18 months ago, because there...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I can agree that the vaccinated person is likely more laissez-faire than the unvaccinated person of a year ago. I will admit to that of myself to an extent, although I take no joy now being in shops and I have not taken public transport for ages. The rest of your argument fails the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    From Today's a Irish Times . It was accompanied by an interesting graphic showing the inverse relationship of vaccination and deaths over all EU countries .. That data is undeniable . Vaccination saves lives even in the era of Delta. ..Ireland has the highest vaccination coverage and among...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Flecc, you continue to ignore the quantitive effect that a virus producing 1200 more active particles per second has on transmission rates. That is the difference between Delta and the versions circulating a year earlier.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    May I counter that if you look at the deaths per million of population , you see a totally different statistic. It is because we were conservative earlier on that our initial numbers were low, and would have been a lot lower except for a fatal error... The female nurses ,from the Philippines...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It has cost the 2% who have died quite a lot . It will probably cost perhaps 5% more with long covid or linked chronic illnesses a lot into the future .... that is what i meant by expensive. Moreover being an early adopter of the" what doent kill you makes you strong ", policy the death rate...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Flecc.. I don't believe that the Covid infection is an "extinction level event" , but I think you are being disingenuous. The reasons why our population has survived as a species' for the 200,000 years is that they developed strategies. Chief amongst successful strategies was quarantine. and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Really flecc, your bias is showing even more clearly. . Smoking is a CERTAIN cause of lung disease, but not of course the only one. I am very sure he is very familiar with Cystic Fibrosis, with Farmers Lung ,with Miners Lung ,with Radon induced cancers but the point he was making is that...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Hi. Before my own problems, I was more worried about my wife's BP and bought the best Braun BP meter then available in Boots. Unfortunately I did not have the wit to buy one with Bluetooth. Well manually transferring the data got tedious and when they were on offer I replaced it with an Lidl...