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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    where is that picture from?
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    is this your motor ? where did you see this ?
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    isn't this a ripoff from https://www.lightest.bike/
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    since this a public forum discussion there's no room and need for pm's . what do you want to keep in secret ?
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    this nice thread is going completely off the rails
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    cyc's price makes it not worthy to hassle - i'd save money and go for bafang integrated M500/600
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    dude... take it easy . NO ONE installed this and reported how it works so far . NO ONE knows if the specs are fake or real. these motors are YETI as on now ... manufacturer leaks info slow as hell . cyc did the marketing job with photon and long before it went into market people can see that the...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    how does it look for already available motors ? parts / fw configuration ?
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    but I'm expecting to use this chainrings in both motors...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    my post was some sort of a joke . I mean that tsdz2 is perfectly capable motor for my needs . if you can make it better-i can't wait to try it . but so far you failed to convince me . 34tNW chainring is an example...tsdz2 did it easily . why can't you? I want smaller display. dz41 looks good ...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    both ... im using typical 34t / 36t 110bcd chainrings with tsdz2 and factory spider on many bikes I've converted and chainline is fine . not perfect maybe but definitely good and poses no problems. and as we all know tsdz2 is a masterpiece of mechanical engineering what makes it impossible to...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    34t nw is a must . just do a 110bcd spider or 104bcd spider and you're fine
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    can you showcase some of the benefits of new design ? do you avoid answers regarding tuning software for users ? if and when will you add DZ41 display to your motor . most of us want small display with integrated selector . you never answered if display will allow user to change power modes and...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    i meant factory motors like yamaha / bosch / brose etc , but also tsdz2 out of the box worked better than osf - in terms of tensometer reactions . osf primarily gives you ability to limit or expand power and top speed - fyik
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    but when you want to sell a product and have invested 10M$ in factory and have it produced and want to go worldwide - 1000$ in professional shoot informational video is nothing , literally nothing ...taking random worker to shoot this with his broken cellphone is contradictory to intent ...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    not sure why but when i see chinese video of the product it's terrifying that they seem to be shot by random parking sweeper with potato wrapped with old sock ... i can't imagine that they have money to start serious company with all staff and machines and then are unable to shoot a decent flick...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    why ? if this could be configurable via display ? its way better imho . osf for tsdz2 came from need , i doubt that community would spent so much time to provide something already existing... somehow factory motors work out of the box without any customization tools and people happily use them...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    can you please take this somewhere else ?