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  1. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Important technical shizzle for you all to log in your brains... summary of the EU stance now its been revealed... (taken from https://www.facebook.com/scientistsforeu/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf) The European Parliament has overwhelmingly (516 to 133) passed a resolution setting out its red...
  2. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ok, so what does this UK model look like? sell it to me, so I can get on side. Does it involve Scotland leaving?
  3. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ok, then Zlatan, lets try to make this more positive. Which country do you want the UK to be like, or what model are you hoping we'll be able to adopt. Sell it to us.
  4. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think he's also admitted it was written with no intention of ever being needed. But this has also been said. European Council President Donald Tusk suggested last year that Britain could change its mind. "In my opinion, the only real alternative to a 'hard Brexit' is 'no Brexit'" he said...
  5. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The guy who wrote it? Lord Kerr, the author of Article 50, says "you can change your mind while the process is going on." He told the BBC: "During that [two year] period, if a country were to decide actually we don't want to leave after all, everybody would be very cross about it being a waste...
  6. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    and the power of trade...
  7. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OMG... I asked you to tell me which of the EU's aims hadn't been achieved? I don't care how it was achieved.
  8. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well you failed on that one didn't you. We can argue about the cause of peace, but the end result is the same, peace. You're supposed to be showing an aim that has been failed. The aim for peace has been achieved.
  9. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ok, well pick one thing and prove me wrong then.
  10. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    'Addressing MEPs near the start of the debate, Mr Verhofstadt said he believed Britain might return to the EU in the future, when a younger generation recognises Brexit as "a loss of time, a waste of energy and a stupidity". He described the Leave vote as "a catfight in the Conservative party...
  11. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I've just given you two examples of things they have achieved - peace and trade, you must have missed that, here is a longer list: Apart from: providing 57% of our trade; structural funding to areas hit by industrial decline; clean beaches and rivers; cleaner air; lead free petrol; restrictions...
  12. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You said the EU was failing in its Aims, so I deliberately chose a kids version of the aims to show you they weren't failing. You can't complain about the aims that are listed on Newsround. You go and find a aim that the EU are failing at? The EU has achieved lots. Peace, easy trade etc...
  13. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No... you asked which of their aims they had failed to achieve, I found their main 5 aims in a simple format. So if you think the EU is failing find me something they are failing at? I just read this and thought of you guys, so here it is: Only die-hard Leave ideologues can fail to see the...
  14. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is so much wrong with this single post that I don't know where to start. I'll just pick 2. You can't think of a law you'd like to change, but for some reason you think London will be better with no influence. If that was the case, the UK would still be on 200w eBikes... just as an...
  15. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    using childrens news to hopefully make it simple. http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_2130000/newsid_2139000/2139071.stm These are the five big things the EU has set out to do. 1. Promote economic and social progress. Help people earn enough money and get treated fairly. 2. Speak for...
  16. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So we're going to curb immigration by making our country less attractive... wow. You do realise we didn't need to leave the EU to do that? and which laws do you want to change?
  17. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Which one of the leave promises, or shall we call them aims is going to happen then? it does all seem to be falling apart doesn't it? http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-theresa-may-immigration-borders-closed-open-europe-eu-migrants-fantasy-a7667586.html
  18. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You might have answered your own question. I wonder which countries would like to see a smaller, not as organised europe.... maybe Russia, maybe China, maybe the USA. Now who do we think might have funded and supported Brexit, and made us think it was for our own good?
  19. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    are you ok?
  20. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your thought's are incorrect. We can back out of A50 whenever we want as long as everyone agrees, and as it'd be us wanting to, and the EU doesn't want us to leave in the first place, there would be no issue with us changing out minds. Nothing is inevitable in politics. Edited. Just to add -...