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I have a normal memory... You've selected one thing, that I don't remember and can't understand. Its a fact that we've never offered the sPedelec for sale, so there has never been a RRP. If you saw one at the NEC, I've acknowledged it was possible, but we don't sell them, so the number was...

Well your memory is better than mine. Maybe a RRP was made up and put on it, I don't remember. But it doesn't really change the point we were making and still do make. That it's not illegal to sell them, its just illegal to use them (or at least it was - its evolving now thanks to the work of...

Well, I'm not aware of that... That bike has never been on any price list and we've never offered it for sale. It might have been that bikes were moved around so the price might have been for another bike. But I can promise you, as has been pointed out above... we make sPedelecs and we have...

Is anything was bad as it appears in the DM?

Wow, I don't remember having a pop at 50Cycles, if you can send me a link I'll have a look. And yes, my arguement has evolved as my understanding of the law and the risks to the individual has improved. I think the fact my focus has shifted since 2014 reflects this and also reflects the rapid...

Its not me personally, its pretty much all brands that have had an involvement in the growth of MTB in the UK, and now see the growth and potential of eMTB. It might be me with my head above the wall here. What do you think my personal crusade is, if its not protecting access for eMTB? There...

This is your opinion of course, and your entitled to it. Although I'm not sure what damage you think has been done. This whole campaign and debate has been about preventing damage. No damage has been done yet, that I'm aware of? Or do you know of things eMTB's have been banned from? I'd...

in my defense, again. read my first reply to the OP. This was before you jumped in. What about this post was a hijack? I was a asking a question and making a helpful suggestion. There was no judgement, no lecture, and certainly no deviation...just a suggestion and question.

Ok, I'll bear that in mind. But it is pretty hard to reply to a post, asking why the person doesn't just buy a motorbike, it'll do what they want better than what they are trying to make, with less risk... with a link?

Which suggestion above... the one where I said stop posting if you want me to stop disagreeing with you or defending myself?? The question is simple, because I want to understand. Why do people think its ok to ride home made electric motorbikes and yet they think its not ok to ride petrol...

I don't think you'll find I've preached about anything really. My question was clear, and simple. I've simply asked a question. Its people arguing with me, that makes me come back to explain and defend myself. Case in point with this post. If you hadn't posted, I'd have no need to reply.

I don't think he's been that bad, he's not understood my original post, but I'm sure we can let him off. He's not understood that I was asking a question, granted it was a loaded one, but it was a question that hasn't been answered. If you're going to ride an illegal eBike why not just ride...

Which gets me back to my point... if you're going to ignore the law, why not ignore the law and ride a decent product? It wasn't sarcastic, it was a genuine question. and my point about the dongles also appears to have been lost on you. I don't think it'll cause eBikes to be banned. I think...

Well I wish I made even a single penny from motorbikes being sold. I don't. You're getting your KTM's mixed up. They have been 2 separate companies since the early 90s. Also.... selling motorbikes that aren't road legal is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, they are designed to be raced and...

I've not been watching in detail... but from the highlights I've seen, the £ has been rising all this week pretty much since Labour announced they wanted to keep is in the Common Market.

at no point did she seem to acknowledge that we're going from being part of the club, to competing with the club. The businesses in the EU are going to want to suck all the industry out of the UK, no matter what she wants.

There is a lot of ... "we will want" etc etc.

Again you're missing my point. I'm in no way condoning or suggesting its a good idea to use illegal motorbikes. I was trying to make it clear that what he's doing is the same as riding an illegal motorbike, and hope that as a normal responsible human being he wouldn't do that... so why do it...

Yes, which was my point, he'll be making an unregistered, non road legal electric motorbike, with a rubbish range, with components not designed for that use. So he's taking a huge risk on 2 counts. Buying a motorbike designed as such means he's only taking a risk on one count, and he'll get...

Why don't you just buy a motorbike? What you want to create will be illegal to use on the roads, so why not just illegally use a motorbike. The result and consequences will be the same, you'll just have a much better product with better range.