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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes,without derailing g this into a thread for gun nuts,in that position ID want heavier calibre than standard NATO round,at least 7.62 perhaps if possible 50 which is why I thought the rather nice but inexperienced looking infantry might be more show than go
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I support corbyn and found it astonishing that Angela eagles deliberate attempt to mount a coup d'etat because she didn't have enough support to follow due democratic process wasn't villified more. But that sadly says something about the level of integrity at present more broadly. I will...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I crossed French Italian border in Menton today. For the first time in my experience border guards both sides and a small que of vehicles(remembered fondly zipping through on a brompton years ago thinking the disheveled border post a quaint relic). My cynical reading is that it's all window...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes there's a novel by Camus called The plague that captured my experience. I worked in the NHS post 2008 and we all thought up to three years after we would be unaffected. Then suddenly overnight the management consultants arrived and two thirds of a specialist unit disappeared. Brexit will be...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think there's a lot of have cake and eat it at the heart of brexit. I find it shameful the way brexit became about a "what's in it for me" mentality instead of playing a proactive role in the world
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yikes,just realised that was a bit of a parapraxis,bringing an international empire into the argument. But the Romans did do a lot for us..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No insult taken,I'm one of a swarm of African migrants who invaded UK via Europe w ho just happen to speak French and find the french often equally perplexing. As a complete aside,wouldn't it be fun if Scotland went for a reverse Greenland...
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    Best kit for hill climbing with no pedalling?

    One way of doing it is to buy and fit a BPM 500w kit from bmsbattery.I did this some years ago,with an s12sh I think controller and a then legal any speed throttle(it's all back in a garage in UK and I'm infrance so can't check unfortunately). With a few 6S looks from hobbyking I used to get...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes,although the brexit Tories have some internal opposition.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Which is why brexit is such a futile archaic gesture. A costly detour,we will reintegrate with Europe in the end regardless. But it will cost us all.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You should all go on a buhist retreat. I believe there are some in oxfordshire. It seems the only way to maintain that tenuous grasp on ones humanity in an anglo saxon eorld. Im living with the fallout of the miguided decision of ill informed voters (as are sll of you to be fair). FWIW my...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's a bit late for that ("wringing out negatives"), am I really the only one here that takes any notice of business news? http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/25/ryanairs-cutting-the-number-of-flights-from-uk-because-of-brexit-6026669/
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Whatever else one might accuse the crass,insulting,uninformed brexit voters off, one cannot accuse them of considering the average working people in the UK http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/nissan-says-no-comment-on-future-of-sunderland-plant-after-brexit-1-7980813
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    With the proviso that our imports from China will be much less once Nissan etc relocate their car manufacturing plants as tariff barriers with the EU go up (if we leave).
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is the old English tradition of fudging iout I.e. manipulating "facts" so that everyone feels happy,or in this case just safely short off catastrophically unhappy. I guess we'll all move on after,with all due respect and I sincerely don't mean to be controversial,brexit doesn't...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree with what you say in principle. The honest caveat is that Im not brave enough to embrace complete financial self destruction for the sake of that in principal agreement. I believe the pound will take a pounding that will make zimbabwe look like an attractive proposition of we trigger...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Very useful feedback. Somewhere along the line we all compromise I suspect. I'm not ready to switch to mobo, or windsurfing tbh,but admittedly a bav is not a pinnacle of aesthetic beauty,or sailing,to say the least,though it has a big cockpit. It's good to hear re contest,I nearly got a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And I bet each of us is a cameo/microcosm of rolls Royce. Any of us that have say half a million pounds worth of property in the UK have just lost 100k in international purchasing power/collateral.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's kind of you,but I'm not so sure. Way back then I went on the march against the war,but remember a lot supported it. Rightly or wrongly almost everything that's happened since seems to me bout populist politicians and the public getting taken in,including the referendum.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    At risk of derailing thread,what was the contest like? It seems much a long passage cruiser,like a rival?