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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    we represent a whole spectrum of views here, not only on brexit, also more generally. strictly FWIW I don't share the sentiment that there will be a soft brexit. I think as the pound weakens progressively long term...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    very true, a disturbing phenomenon is that - as the pound devalues and living standards reduce the electorate instead of coming to their senses begins to resemble and behave increasingly like that in Germany in the 1930's. The level of intolerance, bigotry, projection of all ills into...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_bank_fraud_scandal
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is that the same grant Thornton that was internationally villified for being at the heart of the Moldovan bank fraud scandal?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    racist too.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/21/polish-woman-booed-by-question-time-audience-after-saying-she-no/
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    does bear an uncanny resemblance to what some brexiters say on the thread (remainers' "negativity" is causing all the trouble). where do these cretins come from? if there is 17 million more like these, I'm afraid there's no hope. I'm not sure a devalued pound can challenge that level of stupidity.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    fair enough, in a sense that's a balanced analysis. But in some significant ways I fundamentally disagree. I'm no economist, but even I knew about the UK trade deficit, reliance on overseas investors, service based economy. it also didn't take much to see boris' opportunism, or farage's populism...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    that's a popular brexit refrain ("you lost live with it"). no offence, but in reality you lost, and you will live with it (regardless of what I or anyone else say). have a look at what's happening to the UK economy. On another level, I cant help recognising how central spite and anger is to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    it's a bit like stumbling into parallel world. was listening to Bruce Springsteen interview in which he explains trump,rather well,as con man exploiting disgruntled feelings of those left behind by deindustrialisation, globalisation. I get that intellectually, and that brexit is a product of the...
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    Commuting to work on an EAPC. Sweat free and effortless!

    hang on, isn't the sun supposed to be "over" the yardarm?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    the historical writers association would agree http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/margaret-thatcher-named-worst-prime-minister-in-100-years/ar-AAj6dvS?li=AAdeCd7&ocid=spartanntp specially like "Neville Chamberlain had to contend with Hitler, Eden with Nasser: Cameron couldn't see off Nigel...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    we need to emulate Germany in a world that already has a Germany, China, Korea. perhaps brexit is an ethical option if we're prepared to take up our rightful place in the world, without our "financial services", relying on what we can produce, perhaps really the "Albania option" with the UK...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    very broadly I sort of agree with some of what you say: some change to the relationship with the EU (who has done a very great deal for us) without leaving altogether would have been good. But that's not on offer anymore (Cameron failed to convince the public of that mandate). We've painted...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    just as a further point of interest, this wasn't the first referendum about EU membership. Why didn't we stop with the previous ones in favour of membership (instead of trying to use the country and its economy to try to help Cameron appease the tory right wing by having this further one)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm half surprised it isn't more, this is random, but a friend who sells diprobase (apparently many brits have eczema) for an importer says prices have gone up 20%, which does reflect the pounds devaluation. I think the poor will suffer more than many, at the bottom of the income range margins...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    well inasmuch as "resolve" means "making a commitment" - as opposed to "carrying it through", no. Brexit certainly proves they have certifiable, insane, "way to commit soldier" in the penguins of Madagascar sense levels of commitment
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    one way or another inflation is going up, lots, and neither wages nor interest rates are. so consumers will have much less and spend much less, as will savers. so far domestic consumption staved off recession, but it wont remain the case. But I'm afraid all those xenophobes need to experience...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    i half agree - I'm originally form Africa and think (after 17 years here) quality of life in Europe is so far superior to where I was from, that the definition of hardship here is entirely tolerable. It's what makes me feel OK'ish (not enough to "just enjoy the day" while brexit happens but...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I've done a 180, like old tom and OG before I now hope may totally gets her way and there is a very hard brexit. I think the only thing that will really challenge the ugly xenophobia and opportunism that fuelled the brexit vote is very harsh economic reality. I think UK should leave the common...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    if you could bottle whatever it is you're taking I'd be ever so grateful, there's a whole bunch of patients who during acute stages of major depressive episodes could do with some synthetic denial.