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Nobody said anything of the sort on this thread. Of course, if you don't make enough profit, you'll fall off the cliff.

that Marin is a nice example but I think it's end of line, on special offers normal price is £499 though. Still not better than the Karoo overall.

YD, you have a fixed idea that anything put on a Chinese ebike is bound to be cheap. Although this is often seen, but not always. That's why I suggested that you set aside prejudices. Take German made CD motors. They have isis bottom bracket. That's no match for GXP, Hollotech and similar for...

let's check out your choice. The brakes on the Marasa are better but not more expensive. the rest are either equal or inferior: the BB is square tapered, crankset is a cheap stamp job, tyres are cheap, hubs are cheap. In fact, you could tell by the weight, the Marasa is heavier than the Karoo...

YD, please set aside your prejudices for a moment before jumping to conclusion. There are important components that are the foundation of reliability and performance and there is esthetics. The motor is Bafang, not a cheap brand. The controller is Lishui, again, the most reliable brand out...

I am sorry you are wrong YD. Compared to my Giant costing me a little more than £300, yes, the frame of the Giant is better and that's about it. And the Giant was on special offers. The Karoo has better brakes, Sram Avid discs front and rear against Giant's calipers, Karoo has puncture resistant...

the motor itself does does not cost much more than a quality drill (£100 for a motor), then you have to add the gearbox, battery, controls, sensors etc. If you take a typical £800 woosh Karoo, the mechanical bike costs about £300, battery £300, £100 for motor, £100 for controller, LCD display...

the Krieger is good if you intend climbing Mont Ventoux. The Sport offers much more relaxed riding. The best bike from the point of view of comfort in the woosh range is the foldable 26" zephyr-b.

the motor cable has to turn 90 degrees coming out of the motor's spindle, that's normal to see a pinch. The insulation and sheathing must still not be damaged. The trunk cable I referred to is between the controller and the LCD. It's possible to test the trunk cable, the two well known brands...

no, the error 04 means motor phase wires disconnected. You you see it even if you disconnect only one of the three phase wires. You have now narrowed the fault down to either a short in the trunk cable or a problem within the LCD, causing it to report a communication issue. The next step...

you now know it's not the motor connections. Leave the motor plugged in, try disconnecting the brake sensors next.

it's the usual law of diminishing return as you go upmarket. Most of Woosh customers are elderly, they need some form of suspension. I have been looking for a good sprung seat post for a long time and could not find one that works better than a cheap suspension fork. The Suntour NCX is good but...

debts may be bad for the individuals but like greed, are not all bad, they are integral parts of capitallism and help the economy to grow. This said, I never like credit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deficit_spending

that is precisely what our government (and the BoE) want people to do. The money in saving accounts serves little purpose at the moment, the banks do lend it out but the vast majority of loans are created without corresponding deposits, so money is better spent when the economy needs support...

sorry bad memory, I did read it. I have rigid fork on my Giant and previously had Rockshox on my Specialized, even the Rockshox wasn't fantastic, so I do share your view on this. I have recently put through upgrades on the forks on the woosh bikes to SR NEX 63mm in the autumn and SR XCR for the...

our economy has been running on debts for quite some time now. All relies on house price inflation to support our lifestyle.

Tillson, you jumped to conclusion a bit. there are lots of on-going EU projects, you can't expect that unwinding the UK out of the EU will automatically cut funding to our regions and universities on D day + 2 years. So we'll carry on paying a reducing fee to the EU probably until 2025 on the...

I think it's the current UK share of EU spending commitments that will run for a few more years after brexit. It can be more than £20. Our farmers, scientists and regions should get about 40% of that money back...

try disconnecting the motor cable, switch on. If the error is still there, disconnect next the brake sensors next, try again, then disconnect the throttle. After that, if the error is still showing, then you have narrowed down to a possible short in the trunk cable.

AK, beautiful day and blue sky here in Normandy too. I talked to three of my French neighbours this morning. They are all fed up with too much regulations and want out of the EU as soon as possible.