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Nothing you can say will now change my mind, you are both professional road racers thrown in to Mountain biking by accident, the shock must be terrible for you. Trainers, jeans and a fleece, that's me. When it's very cold I wear a Balaclava, (on my head, editorial note).

Oh! I can see why you were complaining about the conditions now. Is it a very expensive thermal cycling suit and boots?

Well just an update. Had mine since 27th August and used it a lot just as delivered, more now with the early dark nights; working lovely for £16. £16 for everything. Thanks d8veh, I am really happy with it. Did I mention it was £16 the lot?

I have to like a singing dog.

From Brierley Hill on the England Wales border above Presteigne, the local TV repeater mast is to the left , looking to the Sugar loaf mountain in the distance. Flippin steep!

On my Haibike Hardnine with 400 W battery, 23 hard miles with off road mud and steep hills-1st gear steep! Using level 3 assistance leaves 8% at the end, Using level 2 leaves 32%. So for road work 30 miles easy either way I would guess.

When out riding I have found that dogs can easily keep up with me at 15 MPH but they just can't bite at that speed, YET! I blamed Brexit-Trump, get in while you can with the blame game they won't be there for ever.

Charge the battery when you want or need, no memory in Lithium cells. Do not leave it flat, do not leave it out in the frost. Use it, it is a professional hard working bit of kit. I have had my bike for 6 months and am yet to wash it, there are no ebike Police. Do not hose it down, it is an...

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For £1500 you will get a lot of bike. One you just get on and ride. My advice, stay in the warm do not come back,.

A few photos of you off roading in the forests and tracks on the new baby, would look good in the MTB thread a place where you are absent from! If you want to come to Leominster to test it there are plenty of places round here.

Strange reply as I have not seen criticisms on here about the bikes, the opposite really.

Surly being "Modern" is the most important factor in everyone's decision

Dear Mr KTM After reading the above I remembered reading the review on your eCross P which was also very positive. As a high end manufacturer, hub or crank motor or continue with both? What percentages are your UK sales between the two motor styles and are European sales same as the UK...

D8ve, I really do not like to criticise as you are normally very knowledgeable but you have failed here. In the case of perseus this is the clear answer from all his posts, and I am surprised you of all people did not recommend this to start with! Such a looker, in the price range and modern...

So Trex and news on your new baby arriving ? Did you say it's a water birth!

Leominster is a city in Worcester County, Massachusetts, United States. It is the second-largest city in Worcester County, with a population of 40,759 at the 2010 census. Leominster is located north of Worcester and west of Boston

No, he was just trying to be a smart ass.

oldtom nemesis have you watched the video, no can be the only answer.

I think its your use of capitals in roche moutonnee It can be very disagreeable.