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  1. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well said
  2. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Have you been drinking the beer down there? o_O
  3. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Comment on the news value of the PM's wedding
  4. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You were doing well till that bit when it is utterly obvious I'm right, there is no other possible explanation other than them being stupid and not conditioned.
  5. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Thought for the day. "Conservative votes are now so efficiently boundaried that it takes just 38,000 to elect a Tory MP but 51,000 votes for every Labour MP and, because of our FPTP electoral system, it needs 336,000 to elect a Lib Dem and 866,000 to elect a Green MP... "
  6. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Cue the gags about magnetic personality
  7. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't stop there, the whole sermon was worse than usual, but glad the operation was a success!
  8. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Has it never occurred to you that we might actually be right? No of course not, do carry on with the sermon, I love social fiction. :cool:
  9. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Effectively you are simply confirming the average voter is not merely brainwashed from years of propaganda, but too stupid to realise that is the case. And the Brainwashing was done by what? The very media that now is losing control of the situation it created. Your so called reasoning fails...
  10. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The problem isn't that as you put it "There's no fecker else" It's that "no fecker else has the media attacking everyone else of the 65 million other choices. No one else gets even a ghost of a chance
  11. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Will you never stop jumping to conclusions on the basis of personal bias? Just where have I reffered favourably to Cummings?...............EVER?
  12. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Indeed, enough were to the extent they voted for Brexit
  13. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    With the hope of two things Preventing huge losses in the next wave being prepared for the next one Being willing to ignore what has , and indeed is happening now is like Forgetting you came to drain the swamp, and why you wanted to do it while up to your balls in alligators
  14. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Variants are coming at us from all directions, but here's one that should be possible to avoid :oops:
  15. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And the worst thing of all that people do is vote for two utterly stupid things Brexit The Conservatives
  16. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Never a bad word for Gove or Sunak, did you notice?
  17. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well we are giving Belarus a run for their money!
  18. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Interesting, as some of us were born into an utterly devastated land and fortunate to arrive despite the constant air raids. You wouldn't have wanted to come back to that. What we have is what we all worked for despite most of the the Governments we have had, not because of them. Remember that...
  19. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Meanwhile in the Alternative Universe the Daily Express ran this The only question now is when Gove makes his move, and then Sunak his on Gove?
  20. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "We're going to need a bigger needle" springs to mind :oops: