Woosh Santana CDL first impressions, thoughts and some tech queries.

John F

Esteemed Pedelecer
Sep 3, 2013
435
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After riding several ebikes in local shops, and deciding that they they were beyond my financies (ie >£1K) I took the risky step of ordering my first ebike - a pretty good spec Woosh Santana CDL with 15 amp battery and hub drive motor. But was I taking a gamble at £800?.

A huge box arrived on time and I set about fixing the pedals, handlebars, front wheel and mudguard. One drawback is that you are requested to keep the box in case the bike has to be returned for any reason - a potential problem perhaps for those with space issues, though I might just dispose of it and get one from Woosh for £15 if needed. This is the drawback from not buying from a local shop of course. Been reasonable mechanically adept this was pretty straitforward. I did note a couple of scratches on the frame, but this could have been me. The paint appears at first glance to be not very durable but we will see how it goes.to beA small tine of white enamel is on my shopping list. One small comment is that the allen keys supplied are not very long. When tightening the handlebars in particular, a hefty torque needs to be applied, so be aware that these are a little underpowered for this task

My opinions on the components:-

Wheels, spokes and tyres are all good. Always a sign of a half decent bike.

Gears and chain ok. Having had a bad experience with a so called long life Shimano hub gears some years ago, a cheap derrailier is ok my me. The chain seems to be stainless steel. Never come across this. Is the chain maintenance the same as the old type?

Brakes. Rear V fine. Front cable disc less so (spongy brake) . This is my first disc and I wonder what the advantage is over a V brake. Can anyone convince me that I have a good brake ? Customer Support have been helpful so hopefully sorted soon

Lights. Not connected to the main battery, just normal led jobs. Rear is ok, front a bit less inspiring, but at least you get them

Everything else acceptable for the price (except the bell!)

Motor. Impressive. Compared to another crank drive this is smooth and seems quieter.

Battery: Well it's big, and has an impressive range claimed for it. Gone for 2 rides so far total 35 miles, after which the meter was reading 3 out of 4 - so only 25% used: so 100% = 35 x4 = 140 miles! That would be fantastic, so I can only conclude that the meter is inaccurate. In addition the readout drops to 1 or 2 when under a big load (hills) Is this normal? So what then is the actual meaning of the battery 4 indicators. I thought it was just "charge remaning"

How does it ride?

Having never ridden a sit up and beg ladies bike I was bit apprehensive. I'm 6'4" and 15 stone so it has it's work cut out. I was very impressed with the lack of sweating required. I felt after the 30 mile ride that I had done about 2 miles! The most impressive thing is the hill performance, and I haven't even used the lowest gears as yet.

One annoying thing is how the motor keeps turning on and switching off as you approach the cut off speed. I guess when I refine my riding this may become less of an annoyance. I've read somewhere about "cruise control" Can anyone explain?

How exactly does the crank drive motor work? Is it activated by chainwheel rotation or what?

What exactly does the big black box next to the battery do?

And finally, the age old question, why is something so simple, so expensive? (the battery)

John F
 

Malfunction

Finding my (electric) wheels
Jul 23, 2013
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Pleased your enjoying your new bike.
Regarding the motor switching on and off, I think you have the "king meter" fitted to your bike you should be able to go into settings and turn off the 15 mph restriction.
Dont' think it's legal but as long as you don't go passed a police car at 30 mph !!!
 
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You can get rid of that nasty switching on and off at 15mph by increasing the speed limit to something higher. Press and hold the up and down buttons until the setup screen appears. The middle button scrolls through the parameters til you get to max speed, which is set ti=o 25kph. You can go to a maximum of 40kph, but the motor doesn't have enough torque to go much past 20mph except down-hill.

Check your disc brake. Pull the lever and watch the disc. If the caliper moves to the side at all, it needs adjusting. To adjust, loosen the two screws that hold the caliper in the radial direction; hold the brake on hard, and re-tighten the screws before releasing the brake.

Woosh batteries are about the cheapest. What are you complaining about? If you had bought a Trek Valencia, a battery would have cost more than your entire bike!

The battery indicator bars don't mean much regarding capacity, except that after a few rides you can correlate their behaviour to the capacity remaining. They show battery voltage, and they go down in even steps (voltage-wise) but the voltage doesn't go down evenly. At first it does, but once you get about half-way on the bar display, it starts to accelerate downwards, so the last bars go more quickly.

The motor works directly from the throttle. It has a pedal rotation sensor that gives power when you pedal. The power depends on the display setting. The motor will run on a bit when you stop pedaling, which makes gear-changing a bit difficult when you're changing down going up steep hills. i found the best technique is to judge the hill, and then change right down to the appropriate gear in quick steps at the bottom of the hill before you put high tension on the chain during climbing.

The black box houses the controller.
 

John F

Esteemed Pedelecer
Sep 3, 2013
435
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Excellent tips guys thanks. Only had it a few days so a lot to get into.

John F
 
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The more you get used to it, the better it gets, and then when you get bored, there's plenty of ways to modify it to make it even better. We'll save those for later. We don't want to make your brain explode.

I'm sure you'll enjoy your bike.
 

peerjay56

Esteemed Pedelecer
May 24, 2013
745
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Nr Ingleton, N. Yorkshire
Hi John,

Glad you're enjoying the bike! If you've done all your miles near home, about 150 mile range is probably right - you can't call those bridge overpasses hills!;)
Will be in touch about meeting up in October.