vfr400
My argument is not that I know better. Instead, it's that the official certification bodies know better than you. It's their job to read and interpret the regulations, then to apply that to their test procedures and acceptance criteria.
You fail to answer or any proof official body can indeed the fact that you resort to quoting references without any detail whatsoever would suggest that you dont. The bodies may know better but without any evidence they address this issue is unresolved. Your argument is effectively I said it so it must be true. You shed no light on the question.
vfr400
It's like when the jury finds you innocent of a crime. Guys like you can shout all day about how guilty you think they are, but just like O.J Simpson, you're innocent.
I am not shouting this has been a concern for sometime I am awaiting with patience for an answer.
vfr400
I'm not bullying anybody. How else can I tell you that you're assessment of the rules is wrong and what you're doing is wrong . What you're doing has consequences - not for me, but for people who will base decisions about what they buy on what they read. You're wrongly scaring them.
Rather than answer the point you are attempting to demonise me the trouble is all you offer are empty taxis. I am not interested in scaring anyone I have an interest in finding out if there is a loophole that will allow you to legally have a bike with a mode adjustment whatever you like to call it that would allow you to de restrict it.
Derestriction, ‘off-road’ switches or modes and dongles
The Department of Transport say that electric bikes fitted with off-road switches or modes, that enable a bike’s motor to continue assisting to speeds beyond 15.5mph, do not comply with UK EAPC law. The term ‘off-road’ suggests that these bikes can be ridden on parkland, forests or other places away from main roads, which isn’t accurate. E-bikes with increased motor power (continuous rated power above 250w) or increased speed (with motor assistance not cutting out at 15.5mph) cannot be used legally as bicycles anywhere on land accessible by the public; when riding on private land you would need permission from the landowner.
The the legal information on this site would suggest that this is not the case, you seem to have ignored that.
vfr400
You're whole argument is based on a false premise. It's very well known in the industry and in the regulatory authorities that people can tamper with the speed limit, yet the manufactureres still allow this in their systems, the bikes are still certified as compliant and nobody has been prosecuted. Just about all electric bikes can be adjusted in one way or another.
What premise do you consider false, Im sure that the industry are well aware that people will tamper with the speed but that is not proof they either condone or its legal. You imply that all manufacturers are concerned about it ,if they did why can you buy 500w, 750w or 1000w motors which are blatantly illegal.
Because you say Just about all ebikes it is not the same as all e bikes are legal as your statement would suggest. They get away with it probably because no one is looking too closely.
Take for instance Bosch they seem to be focused on regulation when producing their bikes, as far as I am aware they cannot be adjusted in terms of speed.
fr400
Most importantly, the evidence shows that you're wrong. If you can show me examples of people that have been prosecuted in the UK for riding a bike with a cut-off speed above 25km/h, then you win, otherwise you should admit that you're wrong. Don't try the argument that anything might happen in the future because we might all be wiped out by an asteroid before then. We're talking about the law as it is today, how it's interpreted by the people who matter, and how it's applied.
Once again I point out you have no substantiated evidence as for producing that example you ask for, thats nonsense request. You are fully aware as a regular contributor that the chances of prosecution for any infringement are very low. I would be shocked if there are any. The law clearly says the assist cut off is 25kph. please if you reply stick to reasoned argument with facts.
I am not interested in the future I am interested in the present a present you do not seem to be able to define other than make general statements about you or others knowing better.
The fact you have made no comment on the quotation from the legal advice on the site speaks volumes. You have not produced a substantiated argument.
I had hoped to get a coherent reason but this is alas missing, even I dont know or no one knows for sure would have been convincing.
