Your quite right Neal and I don't like it one bit. That post was just a follow on from me asking about the "Bosch BMS Consiracy". I'm starting to see why you like your Swizzbees so much apart from the funky looks, why so many amps, vertical cliff climbing a hobby of yours perhaps?
The 24v Heinzman mid drive motor isn't a hub or crank drive but a brushed motor mounted (mid height) between rear wheel and seat post, it is the first I believe mass produced S-pedelecs so has a controller which can produce up to 80a output. Therefore the motor is a little beaat and consumes battery mah at a healthy rate. Currently I use a 28.4ah lithium set up which is good now for about 42 miles, the only way I to get capacity is more cells in P which ultimately means more ampacity when using Panasonic 10a cells. In all the two battery packs combined will have 14 cells in P. I have started the build and when finished will post pics on the Swizzbee thread in one go rather then bits and bobs but might not be for several week yet.
The build will be a bit different to normal welded nickel builds so that I can achieve good current flow without multiple nickel build up.
Quite honestly I just enjoy playing with cells etc,etc and like building packs and with each pack improving layout and current flow for better power use from the cells. Building bikes persay no longer really interests me it's the power source of the battery that I'm currently enjoying and what cells to try next time. The PF is my cell at the mo due to the good price of them and the power they can deliver.
I wouldn't mind trying 35E's , GA & MJ1 in the future but only if the price is right.
The last cells I got before Xmas was £128 for 100 unused PF's and £20 for 50 PD's, plus £80 for 50 MJ1's for Kirstin. The PD's are in a DASKIT case now on my town/errand commute bike and will give them their first run out tomorrow they are replacing two tired dolphins that got a bit wrecked with derestriction, that was before I knew how crappy the cells really were.