Ultra HD Television Sets

I need to replace my old Sony TV with a new one. I'm looking at some of the Ultra HD sets offered by Samsung in the JU7000 range. Anyone in the know regarding UHD? Is it worth the extra cost or is the technology still in it's infancy?

 

Thanks

I bought a Sony 4K UHD 65" set about 18 months ago and would never want to go back to a standard HD set, it's that good.

 

Make sure you know what you're getting though. Mine is an upscaling set that multiplies up all that it receives, so HD becomes Ultra HD and standard TV becomes much better, though not quite up to Full HD. Basically the eqivalent resolutions in camera language:

 

Standard TV = 0.4 megapixels

 

HD ready = 0.9 megapixels

 

Full HD = 2 megapixels

 

Ultra HD = 8 megapixels

 

An upscaling set multiplies the first three as they are received by 4 times, and the fine detail onscreen is amazing.

 

There are some cheaper Ultra HD sets that are only capable of receiving Ultra HD when it's transmitted, they don't upscale the rest.

 

Also make sure it's a current set. There are different HDMI connector standards, just like the different USB standards in computing. The latest HDMI standard will enable connection of all the latest accessories like Blue Ray players and newer developments.

 

This is the latest version of my set, it comes in 55", 65" or 75", scroll down for all the details.

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Edited December 15, 201510 yr by flecc

does the sony have hdmi2 input tho as if not will only be 30fps and no good for games from a pc gfx cards with hdmi2 outputs.

 

hdmi2 has 60fps but to run crisis 3 on it will take 3 titan gfx cards in x fire mode so just not worth it atm or got spare 3k for the cards.

 

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk37/necromunger666/DSC_0247_1.jpg

 

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does the sony have hdmi2 input tho as if not will only be 30fps and no good for games from a pc gfx cards with hdmi2 outputs.

 

hdmi2 has 60fps but to run crisis 3 on it will take 3 titan gfx cards in x fire mode so just not worth it atm or got spare 3k for the cards.

 

 

I'm not into any form of game playing so that doesn't matter to me, nor do i want BlueRay. I think the latest ones have HDMI 2, hence my warning to tillson to get a current set, since there's plenty of dated stock at dealers.

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I didn't get any further than the price. Does the quality of the programme improve also?

i have only had mine for 4 days but so far it is a lot better than my old hd1080p tv.

 

tho some shows look a bit like lego but the 4k stuff you can get will blow you away from what i have watched so far

 

mine is a samsung 6 series 1200pqi 4k curved

I didn't get any further than the price. Does the quality of the programme improve also?

 

Launch price was £5995, but mine was bought when the list price was £4995 , but I went direct to Sony and got 15% discount.

 

Programmes improve? In a sense some do actually. When a program has content that benefits from really good picture quality and good quality sound, a marginal program can become much more watchable.

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can you get any of the movie sites to work on it tho 1 ive found will work on mine. tho others will not even get the home page up like its blocked.

 

ott box will sort that tho

I bought a Sony 4K UHD 65" set about 18 months ago and would never want to go back to a standard HD set, it's that good.

 

Make sure you know what you're getting though. Mine is an upscaling set that multiplies up all that it receives, so HD becomes Ultra HD and standard TV becomes much better, though not quite up to Full HD. Basically the eqivalent resolutions in camera language:

 

Standard TV = 0.4 megapixels

 

HD ready = 0.9 megapixels

 

Full HD = 2 megapixels

 

Ultra HD = 8 megapixels

 

An upscaling set multiplies the first three as they are received by 4 times, and the fine detail onscreen is amazing.

 

There are some cheaper Ultra HD sets that are only capable of receiving Ultra HD when it's transmitted, they don't upscale the rest.

 

Also make sure it's a current set. There are different HDMI connector standards, just like the different USB standards in computing. The latest HDMI standard will enable connection of all the latest accessories like Blue Ray players and newer developments.

 

This is the latest version of my set, it comes in 55", 65" or 75", scroll down for all the details.

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Thanks flecc, some useful information here.

 

I looked at the Sony, but the 55" model is too wide for where I want to put it. All of my previous sets have been Sony, but this time I think it will be Samsung or LG, with the Samsung being a whisker ahead.

 

The JU7000 upscales the input source. I've been looking at various sets side by side in John Lewis this afternoon, all upscaling Bargain Hunt. The JU7000 made a good job of it.

 

It does have the HDMI 2.0a ports, but like you I have no interest in gaming. It may be useful for higher frame rates at some future time though.

 

I am interested to hear that you think UHD is worth the investment, and thanks again for your thoughts.

Thanks flecc, I always trust you but since I spend more time on a bike than in front of a tele I will stick with my old CRT set.

this is the 1 i have and traded in my old tv

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/samsung-ue55ju6740-smart-ultra-hd-4k-55-curved-led-tv-10127147-pdt.html

 

the stand on mine is not very strong as it wobbles if you touch it as where it connects to the tv is just plastic with 4 tiny screws.

 

to wall mount it i need m8 41.8mm bolts so will have to cut some to size for my wall mount as none came with it. or get a samsung wall mount kit.

 

Edited December 15, 201510 yr by soundwave

If I were going for new TV it would probably be an LG OLED 4K http://www.trustedreviews.com/lg-55eg960v-review

 

We have couple of Samsung TV's in the house, the 40" LED is 5 or 6 years old does all we need and I won't be replacing it until it dies, by then there will probably be something better available.

So many of the better dramas now seem to be filmed in total darkness that the best buy is probably a radio (wireless set, to my contemporaries) ...

oled are better screens blacks ect but not sure if its worth more than double the cost of mine tbh.

 

give it a few months and will be another 1k of those lg 1s as all the others will be oled soon so more to chose from.

can you get any of the movie sites to work on it tho 1 ive found will work on mine. tho others will not even get the home page up like its blocked.

 

ott box will sort that tho

 

No, I don't use the onboard internet software other than for updates, since it's very slow acting. I have three recorders attached though. There's an old Panasonic Freeview disc DVD and HDD recorder that I keep just for DVDs. To that I added originally a Humax two tuner satellite HDD recorder which has Freetime. Now the latest addition is a Humax three tuner Freeview HDD recorder which is best of all for the internet side, 9 day programming, TV company players etc., and this will probably displace the satellite recorder at some point. The Sony TV has both satellite and freeview tuners as well so I've got loads of recording and viewing options.

 

Fortunately I have a building mounted amplified aerial system multi-feed with twin satellite aerial outlets, one freeview outlet and FM and DAB aerial outlets. In addition I've got separate aerial feeds from three loft mounted freeview TV aerials and one FM/DAB aerial, so with 9 independent aerial connections I don't have to piggy back things.

 

But I'm not viewing and listening all the time, I spend many hours out in the countryside, some time in this forum and more online time working in the Natural History Museum forum carrying out identifications of wildlife for members of the public inquiries, like these:

 

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/76731#76731

 

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/76572#76572

 

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/76505#76505

 

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/76237#76237

 

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/76134#76131

 

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/77371#77371

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the on board net on mine is pretty fast lot better than i thought it would be tbh and loads off apps games ect to chose from tho only 4gb of space and half used atm with what come with it tho u can remove the 1s you dont use or like to free up space.

 

this works on mine but might not work on other makes of tv

 

https://projectfreetv.unblocked.pe/

 

still get pop ups tho ;(

player from that site

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Edited December 15, 201510 yr by soundwave

I am suspicious... Old Sonys never die!

 

Having been in front of Sony and Samsung TVs for many hours (my TV is also my computer screen upon which this message was composed, no useless gadgets around here) Sony wins for image quality. I have also been involved with digital imaging since before soundwave was conceived.

my last tv sharp lasted near 8 years and was still working when they took it away when the samsung 1 came.

 

id also try to get 1 with a 5 year warranty with it if you can

id also try to get 1 with a 5 year warranty with it if you can

 

Buying mine at high price but going direct to Sony for a 15% discount, at the same time I got them to throw in a five year warranty to close the deal.

 

I don't usually bother with extended warranties and certainly wouldn't pay for one, but with the new tech of 4K I thought that safest.

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1 thing that does my head in with tvs is have only got hdmi and no display port connectors like a pc monitor that has them all.

 

the 1st Panasonic sets did have them but not sure on the sony 1 as never looked as used weird ass wall mounts as was the only way to get 60fps b4 hdmi 2.

http://www.sharp.co.jp/business/8k-display/products/lv85001_feature.html

 

this has display ports think its 3 at the same time for that high res.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/amd-and-nvidia-already-preparing-for-8k-76804320-uhd-displays/

1 thing that does my head in with tvs is have only got hdmi and no display port connectors like a pc monitor that has them all.

 

the 1st Panasonic sets did have them but not sure on the sony 1 as never looked as used weird ass wall mounts as was the only way to get 60fps b4 hdmi 2.

 

My Sony has the full range of RCA sockets and a Toslink optical connection, but no S video connector. Plus four HDMI and three USB.

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The last Sony TV we had was a CRT monster from the latter part of the last century. It came with a 5 year warranty and died 6 months after that expired.

 

I also remember the first colour TV my dad bought in the early 1970's.

It was a Murphy, I came rushing home excitedly from college the day it arrived only to find it had already stopped working:(

 

That also reminds me about a "lady" who cancelled a trip to Ireland when she found out that Murphy's 14" was a TV set:confused:

If I were going for new TV it would probably be an LG OLED 4K http://www.trustedreviews.com/lg-55eg960v-review

 

We have couple of Samsung TV's in the house, the 40" LED is 5 or 6 years old does all we need and I won't be replacing it until it dies, by then there will probably be something better available.

 

I think that OLED sets will become more affordable and hence popular in the coming months / years. Definitely an area which will develop.

 

This is always an issue with technology of this nature, something which promises an even better experience tends to be just a few months away. That then presents a quandary, should I buy now or wait? You wait, the new feature arrives, but then something else is just around the corner. It never ends. I have found that the ideal time to buy is at the precise moment that you need it. Like when the TV stops working for instance and then buy the best you can within your budget. The only exception to some extent is with Apple products, these tend to be updated at certain times of the year.

I think that OLED sets will become more affordable and hence popular in the coming months / years. Definitely an area which will develop.

 

I'm absolutely certain you're correct..........says the man who bought a Betamax recorder a week before the announcement that Sony were to scrap the system. That's the same man who bought a brand new Rover from the factory at Longbridge two weeks before the company went bust.

 

What could possibly go wrong?

 

Tom