UK E-bike laws about to change or fake news?

[Ebiker555]

This could be total nonsense, so please don't shoot me down, but I was told by someone in the trade today that the UK are about to change the current e-bike laws to allow for up to a 1000w motor & also allow throttle, however the speed limit of 15Mph still applies.

Has anyone else heard this rumour?

 

[egroover]

Can't see it myself

 

[Spider]

I was talking to a guy that works in Halfords a month or 2 back and he said motor wattage was going to be going up though I took it with a pinch of salt ..
Though I have seen some big brand bike manufacturers with 500w motors on uk sites

 

[egroover]

I was talking to a guy that works in Halfords a month or 2 back and he said motor wattage was going to be going up though I took it with a pinch of salt ..
Though I have seen some big brand bike manufacturers with 500w motors on uk sites

Yes, I think it was the same guy in Halfords who said that to me, just after he built up my new Gtech escent bike (pic below)...I think he know his stuff

 

[Spider]

Yes, I think it was the same guy in Halfords who said that to me, just after he built up my new Gtech escent bike (pic below)...I think he know his stuff

Lol , no it wasn't the same guy . The chap I was talking to does know his stuff but has since moved to another store and do not have much confidence in the other staff so no longer use my local ..

 

[mike killay]

New e-bike category ups the power to 1000 watts

New EU rules let e-bike makers add more powerful motors to their machines

www.cyclingweekly.com

 

[Sturmey]

The rider needs to be licensed and the machine registered and insured, but unlike riders of motorcycles and mopeds, there’s no requirement to wear a helmet and the e-bikes can be used on a cycle path.

Read more at https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/product-news/new-e-bike-category-ups-power-1000-watts-396471#eLMME5PYPIwzPBQh.99

 

[Nealh]

I think it is current LE1A but requires type approval and all else that it entails.
Flecc for sure will know the ins and outs and this has posted previously about it.

 

[flecc]

I think it is current LE1A but requires type approval and all else that it entails.
Flecc for sure will know the ins and outs and thin has posted previously about it.

Indeed, it's just a form of the Low Powered Moped class L1e-A for 250 watt pedelecs to be permitted throttles. They have to be type approved by Single Vehicle Approval to get that permission.

But that doesn't make them fully L1e-A mopeds allowed up to 1000 watts, which are emphatically not allowed on any cyclepath, are confined to the roads and have to be registered and number plated, ridden with a m/c helmet and third party insurance.

It's such a confused legal situation I think it's probably a pity that this throttle measure was ever introduced for pedelecs.
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[Craiggor 2]

Surely all bets are off with Boris at the helm.

 

[Jimo]

Of course scooters are illegal - but it’s ok for some law makers to flout the Law!?

Jim

 

[mike killay]

Of course scooters are illegal - but it’s ok for some law makers to flout the Law!?

Jim

I have seen a number of these on the Swansea Bay cycle path.

 

[flecc]

I have seen a number of these on the Swansea Bay cycle path.

There's lots of them about. If they continue in use for many years the law might eventually follow. It happened with pedelecs, after 12 years of being illegal with 250 watts the law changed to match that.

Perhaps not so easy with these though, since they start from being illegal while pedelecs weren't. Also I doubt these will be as individually long lived, many looking quite flimsy to my eyes.

Could be fun with a long cape covering the scooter though, looking like a yellow Dalek skimming along a road.
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[mike killay]

There's lots of them about. If they continue in use for many years the law might eventually follow. It happened with pedelecs, after 12 years of being illegal with 250 watts the law changed to match that.

Perhaps not so easy with these though, since they start from being illegal while pedelecs weren't. Also I doubt these will be as individually long lived, many looking quite flimsy to my eyes.

Could be fun with a long cape covering the scooter though, looking like a yellow Dalek skimming along a road.
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I guess it's the old canard, the users think that they are not using them on a road so it's OK

 

[flecc]

Halfords still flogging them despite illegallity, now including this one in its 30% off Sale:

Link

They do show a disclaimer on the legality, but not within the web page.
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[Craiggor 2]

Around 100 people stopped and given warnings this uweek after the death of presenter and you tuber Emily Hartridge. TFL saying they want new laws. See the you tube video " police extorting money from e scooters"

 

[Deleted member 25121]

Around 100 people stopped and given warnings this uweek after the death of presenter and you tuber Emily Hartridge. TFL saying they want new laws. See the you tube video " police extorting money from e scooters"

Whatever next, the police will be extorting money from burglars. Outrageous.

 

[soundwave]

so a stupid woman on a slow ass scooter gets run over buy a truck pmsl and thats why they dont drive f1 cars