TSDZ2 or BBS02B

whiteturbo

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Jul 22, 2016
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I bought a sample 36V TSDZ2 last year, I concur with your finding about the 350W 36V TSDZ2.
That's why I asked Tongsheng to make me a 250W 48V that can replace the 36V BBS02 :)
That would be interesting, i would seriously like to convert mine to 48v, is a 48v controller available for the 350 watt?
 

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sparkysx

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Jan 5, 2019
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I have two Bafang BBS01(not 02) 250watt and TSDZ2(350watt) so here is my two pennyworth.
TSDZ2 :-
If you are fit or reasonably so, the TSDZ2 is for you. The TSDZ2 definitely feels more Bike like, most of the time you don't even notice the motor it just quietly goes about its business until you put push hard on the pedals, like when going uphill, and then the motor becomes more noticeable as the torque drive kicks in. The harder you push on the pedals the more the engine works, sounds good, BUT when you are knackered and you have cycled 35 miles up hill and down dale and you come to the last steep hill and you have very little energy left to push hard on the pedals the motor doesn't help you enough.
It has no voltage display only bars, that might not be a problem for you, but i use HobbyKing LI-PO's and any thing below 3.7v per cell will drastically cut the batteries life, it will also cause puffing which is when LI-PO's become dangerous, so i need to know the voltage for safety reasons, which means more expense and another LCD for my voltage indicator. The actual motor is good, its well engineered, and i have had very little trouble with it, although it was supplied with a faulty LCD which took 5 mths to get replaced, But i blame the supplier for that and not the actual TSDZ2.
Finally, what you get is what you see, no ability to adjust its performance beyond stock. Dealers will like this as they hate us tinkering, But i like the freedom to set things to my personal preferences, especially as my 350watt TSDZ2 appears to me to not be as strong as my other e-bikes.

Bafang BBS01 250 watt. :-
I really thought i had made a mistake when i first bought the Bafang, it was gutless and the motor kept pulsing , I hated it!! I found out later that the dealers set them up very conservatively for fear of them having to pay out with guarantees. And the pulsing was because i was riding it at its legal maximum speed(15.5 mph) and the motor would cut out, as it should, and without the motor assistance it would slow down a bit and the motor would cut back in, rinse and repeat. And on top of all that the bloody chain kept coming off.
So through the Pedelecs Forum i found out i needed to adjust the settings and bought a £20 lead which after a lot of time surfing and reading up, i was able to get my Bafang set up just how i like it. The pulsing was stopped by adjusting the maximum speed to 20mph(Oh Er naughty, naughty) and a Bling Ring crank stopped the chain dropping permanently. Bafang are Definitely pushing the limit because no way is it only 250watt, its quite a bit more powerful than my TSDZ2 which is 350watt.
I liked the motor so much I bought a second one.

Conclusion :-
The TSDZ2 is more natural to ride. Most of the time you completely forget its an ebike until you come to a hill, or you put a quick spurt in, when the motor increases its power and helps you along. Great for ambling along with other elderly riders on a group ride, or casually taking in the scenic route. The TSDZ2 does not like to be pushed and prefers a more leisurely Pace. Its also more economical than the Bafang getting up to 30% greater range.

The Bafang is more suited to my style of riding, I often find myself keeping up with, and sometimes even passing the Lycra brigade, who seem to get upset when an old fart like me(70) goes past them on steep hills. And most people don't even realize i'm riding an ebike until i tell them. I dont have throttles on my ebikes, but when i'm knackered i can just wack it up to 5 and get up the steepest hills without much effort on my part, unlike the TSDZ2 which always requires you to do a lot more of the work on hills.

Horses for Courses, but i ride my Bafangs a lot more than the TSDZ2.
can you post a screenshot of your setttings on the bafang please??
 

DouglasXK

Pedelecer
Oct 9, 2016
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Oxford
I bought a sample 36V TSDZ2 last year, I concur with your finding about the 350W 36V TSDZ2.
That's why I asked Tongsheng to make me a 250W 48V that can replace the 36V BBS02 :D
The “noisier” video might be an older version of the TSDZ2. It looks to have a silver spider. I mentioned either here or elsewhere that the latest motor with the black spider was much quieter and smoother. I had a thought that the manufacturer had cheekily implemented the best bits of the open source firmware to improve it. Anyway I have an unloved 36v motor which I’ve just about completed implementing the new firmware to see if Field Oriented Control will convert the noise it makes into greater effort!
 
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