Treat the Earth Well
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Read that quote again! it was attributed to Sheikh of Dubai, a country which has squandered its oil wealth on a number of high-rise buildings and tourism and is already an overall net-importer of energy.
Still your probably right, he'll be driving one of the many luxury cars dumped in Dubai by the ex-pats !
A useful page for those wanting to get an idea of where we are:
The Oil Drum | Is Peak Oil Real? A List of Countries Past Peak
The Oil Drum | Is Peak Oil Real? A List of Countries Past Peak
Where there is a claim there is always a counter claim
Are We Running Out of Oil? | Publications | National Center for Policy Analysis | NCPA
However the issue is very real the world cannot continue consuming as much as it does, I just read this link below and it's shocking (if correct) that the USA
consumes over a quarter of the worlds yearly production...
Les Magoon: Are We Running out of Oil? The Coming Global Oil Crisis
Are We Running Out of Oil? | Publications | National Center for Policy Analysis | NCPA
However the issue is very real the world cannot continue consuming as much as it does, I just read this link below and it's shocking (if correct) that the USA
consumes over a quarter of the worlds yearly production...
Les Magoon: Are We Running out of Oil? The Coming Global Oil Crisis
Another problem with seeing ebikes, ecars, eetc., as the way forward, is that pesky business of charging them up from the mains.
With many power stations oil-fired, many others still coal powered, surely the only realistic way to clean and sustainable energy IS nuclear fuel.
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With many power stations oil-fired, many others still coal powered, surely the only realistic way to clean and sustainable energy IS nuclear fuel.
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Of course. Which lead me logically (if selfishly) to the thought that If you are on the Titanic, why go second class?
I think it is very easy to get dispondant about prospects for the future, knowing that the fix, if there is one (I believe there is) isn't going to be quick or painless.
A long series of steps took us to where we are so, inevitably, a long series of positive steps is the only way back out of the mess...
A long series of steps took us to where we are so, inevitably, a long series of positive steps is the only way back out of the mess...
As Henry Ford said, "History is bunkum".
More relevant is the very much longer list of all the possible locations where oil is likely to exist.
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Unfortunately, Henry was an ass. I'd look long and hard for a source of a quote before I chose him. A thoroughly unpleasant piece of work, indeed.
And harder and harder to extract.
Sure it will be expensive, but we already know drivers will sell their kids before they give up their car (well almost
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I thought that, when I saw he was being quoted! In treating people simply as a resource to be made more efficient, and deliberately de-skilling the production process, Ford is arguably the inventor of modern capitalist drudgery.
I'm afraid it will eventually anyway.
With the non-biological I'm an optimist, with the biological and especially the human race, I'm a pessimist. This approach has served me well over the years and proved a remarkably accurate indicator to the future.
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Just to put all these other 'discoveries' and 'yet to be discovered' into perspective, BP has anounced its bidding o develop deepwater oil projects off Greenland. Wood Mackenzie has said there is a possible 20 billion barrels of oil there. given we use 85 million barrels a day that equates to 12 days global usage!
The US geological survey estimates the arctic holds 160 billion barrels or roughly 5 years and that assumes you can extract every drop which is highly unlikely.
Plus don't forget our global economy needs a never ending supply of cheap energy and you can see where we are all heading!
The US geological survey estimates the arctic holds 160 billion barrels or roughly 5 years and that assumes you can extract every drop which is highly unlikely.
Plus don't forget our global economy needs a never ending supply of cheap energy and you can see where we are all heading!
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Of course, even the smallest resources are used before going on to more difficult to access resources, That's why we even have tiny on-land recovery sites like Wytch Farm in Dorset. It's not in any way a measure of what is to come. All these negatives repeat what has been said in the past and proved wrong time after time.
As for the need for cheap energy, no chance, energy will get dearer and the global economy will have to adapt to that. There's no other option, and I've not argued that the future will be pleasant, quite the opposite for the majority in fact.
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That's a little sweeping, Flecc.
Off the top of my head, history shows us that partitioning countries according to the whim of the occupying power always lead to long term strife. That lesson comes to us from the partitioning of the Balkans according to the religious precepts of the Roman Empire via the Middle East through Northern Ireland- the lessons were always there to be learned in history but we did not and you could argue that they are bunkum.
When the USA implemented the Marshall Plan after WW2 they had learned the historical lessons of the denouement of WW1 and that history was not bunkum.
History may sometimes be bunkum but to say it is always useless bunkum sounds more like a religious belief that a considered opinion.
Always, like never, are words that often come back to bite the user.
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