Trade versus Non Trade Membership?

I am seriously wondering why I am paying, albeit a nominal amount, to be an official trade member?

 

On a daily basis I see threads with posts by Non Trade members that are little more than covert advertising by someone who has an "association" with a specific company.

 

I am hoping that Admin will convince me that it is worth my while to be a trade member.

 

Maybe I should revert to being a non trade member, use my original ID of Aldby, pay nothing and simply have the tagline something like "While this is a personal user account, the Aldby account has an association with Cyclezee"?

It does have its advantages of allowing product releases in the electric bicycle forum and promoting product in the introduction forum;)

I think setting an honest and transparent tone is important. You do and people can see that. I'm sure it is appreciated and to your credit.

It does have its advantages of allowing product releases in the electric bicycle forum and promoting product in the introduction forum;)

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/businesses-no-advertising-in-the-introductions-forum.8249/

 

Is this not a product release? http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/introducing-the-new-woosh-bermuda.24269/

John, are you talking about my posts?

if you do, which posts are covert advertising?

I think setting an honest and transparent tone is important. You do and people can see that. I'm sure it is appreciated and to your credit.

Sure Bob, but it doesn't seem to be a level playing field.

Woosh support the forum by paying £29/month John.

John, are you talking about my posts?

if you do, which posts are covert advertising?

See my previous post.

Woosh support the forum by paying £29/month John.

I haven't mentioned Woosh Helen?

 

(Admin note: There is only one admin note with the specific wording you put in your opening post.)

Edited May 20, 20169 yr by HelenJ

john, if you want that thread removed, just say so.

I have no objection. To me, it's just a bit of technical info.

Is there anything else you want removed too?

John, are you talking about my posts?

if you do, which posts are covert advertising?

 

http://pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/looking-for-a-bike.24270/

john, if you want that thread removed, just say so.

Is there anything else you want removed too?

I'm not asking for the removal of any threads, all I am asking for is honesty when it comes to membership status.

 

I think I have made my point clearly and unambiguously.

http://pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/looking-for-a-bike.24270/

 

is it just one particular post?

I'm not asking for the removal of any threads, all I am asking for is honesty about when it comes to membership status.

 

I think I have made my point clearly and unambiguously.

so you don't want me to start any thread in the future about a new woosh bike because of my association?

is it just one particular post?

Seriously, that made me laugh out loud.

so you don't want me to start any thread in the future about a new woosh bike because of my association?

See post No.12 above, that is all I am going to say on the matter.....for now.

It would devalue the site for everyone if all posts could not be accepted as honest.

Honesty starts with a signature.

Anything else is an attempt to dupe, and allowing that devalues the site.

Edited May 20, 20169 yr by JuicyBike

Bob, why do you have to express yourself in such a convoluted way? if you want to imply that I attempt to dupe anyone, just say so positively and stand by your view.

It's just my view in general, aimed at Helen, actually.

is it just one particular post?

 

http://pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/looking-for-a-bike.24270/#post-307018

 

No welcome, outside OP's requirements and use of "association" to allow propriety graphics which would not be normally allowed without source permission, as opposed to my counter posting in the thread.

Edited May 21, 20169 yr by shemozzle999

point taken about no welcome and propriety graphics.

However, the source permissions are implied in the GPL or common youtube/google models though. If the source is indexed by google, deep linking (http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2016/santana2/santana2-2000.jpg) rather than downloaded and uploaded is permissible though.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26187730

 

The information on the web page can be cited for educational use.

 

"The way we communicate online is predicated on sharing material, whether that's links to Robert Peston on Bank of England interest rates, decisions of the European court or pictures of otters who look like Benedict Cumberbatch,"

 

the recommended bike (santana2) fulfils all the requirements set out by the OP, height, frame style, motor power, battery range and has the smallest deviation from the budget (£79).

Edited May 20, 20169 yr by trex

The answer to me is to have two accounts, a Trade account and a private account.

If as a Trade member you post anything that can be considered as an advert, then Trade membership covers it.

Opinions, general banter etc. are covered by your private membership.

The problem is when a genuinely private member wants to tell everyone about the fantastic XYZ bike he has just bought, but because he does not have a trade connection, it is allowed, although in a sense it is advertising.

Poor old EddieO used to drive me mad with his constant praising of the latest German bike and rubbishing of anything Chinese, to the point that I suspected that he was German.

But, he was just an enthusiast, who really liked German bikes and wanted to tell us all about them.

Exactly my point, maybe you should consider editing all the posts where this has occurred - - might take you a while though;)

I think a good point has been made here. If a person is posting in the capacity of representing a product manufacturer or retailer, then that should be done under a trade account. General advice, banter and questions are fine under a personal account.

 

I don't believe anything had been done with the intent to deceive or to be in anyway disingenuous, but mixing trade posts with personal posts will always cause issues.

this thread comes about because of my posts about the new woosh Bermuda that I helped to make.

that's mean, don't you think?

this thread comes about because of my posts about the new woosh Bermuda that I helped to make.

that's mean, don't you think?

 

no ... personally I think, if you're working for the brand, which in this case you clearly are then you need a trade account.

 

or, if your posting about trade stuff, don't do it with your personal account, get Woosh to do it.