Toe Clips for Wisper 806fe

cinclocx

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Feb 21, 2010
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Hi folks,

i'm looking to get some toe clips for my new 806fe, does anyone know if i can just add some off the shelf ones or am i going to have issues with the special folding pedals?

i'm hoping someone else has attacked their band new pedals with a screwdriver and found out already...

many thanks
chris
 

daniel.weck

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Lloyd

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Just a word of advice, it's probably not the best idea to run toe clips on a 20" wheel folder. The reason is the pedals are generally lower to the ground on 20" bikes, if you fit clips you will almost certainly have issues with them catching when your foot is not engaged. This is both dangerous, and can wear them out very quickly.

SPD's are impractical for a folder, but if it is grip you require then maybe you should look at a decent mountain bike platform pedal? They don't fold, but are lightweight, and have removable pins that provide insane amounts of grip. The only downer is if you do slip off the pins that were your friend a minute ago, suddenly become your nemesis as they gauge your shins to pieces. :rolleyes:

I personally use Shimano MX30 pedals if it is not practical for me to use SPD's. In fact I used them last year for the Avalanche Cup Bike Speed Challenge, which was on snow and ice at high speeds. They really do grip like hell.

Shimano MX30 DX Flat Pedals Only £51.07

They also come with 2 sets of pins, so you can choose from normal sized, shin-friendly but grippy, to extra long shin-eating :eek:
 

flecc

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Just a word of advice, it's probably not the best idea to run toe clips on a 20" wheel folder. The reason is the pedals are generally lower to the ground on 20" bikes, if you fit clips you will almost certainly have issues with them catching when your foot is not engaged. This is both dangerous, and can wear them out very quickly.
Since smaller wheel bikes often tend to be rather low geared, meaning higher cadences for given riding speeds, there is an option to overcome this difficulty for riders who do serious distances which justify some expenditure.

Higher cadences are suited to shorter cranks, and a number of serious cyclists swear by the efficiency of short cranks, among them bicycle designer Mike Burrows and Rob of West Country Recumbents. Some use as short as 100 mm, but there's no need to go anywhere near that far to gain the odd inch or so to bring ground clearance to normal bike standards.
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Tex

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Jun 14, 2009
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by that reckoning flecc the panasonic crank system should be fitted with 180mm cranks, Indurain style! seriously, i think crank length debate is always divisive and ultimately inconclusive. and dependent on teh unique mechnics of the power source - i.e the rider, mostly. i've lost count of all the different theories that have popped up over the years.:confused: on the earlier point about low bottom bracket on SOME folders, you really have to emphasise the "some". most of the good sporty folders I've owned have cliplesss-safe BB heights
 

cinclocx

Finding my (electric) wheels
Feb 21, 2010
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Bristol BS16, UK
Many thanks for all the thoughts!! The clearance had not occured to me, which is a surprise given i changed my panier gear because it interfeared with my heels.

I'll get a measure of the pedal clearance when i get home, and then undoubtedly agree with lloyd and look into getting some new pedals that are more grippy.

chris
 

flecc

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seriously, i think crank length debate is always divisive and ultimately inconclusive. and dependent on teh unique mechnics of the power source - i.e the rider, mostly. i've lost count of all the different theories that have popped up over the years.:confused: on the earlier point about low bottom bracket on SOME folders, you really have to emphasise the "some". most of the good sporty folders I've owned have cliplesss-safe BB heights
I agree Tex, but in this instance the shorter crank route is a good way round small wheel bikes inadequate ground clearance when it occurs. On my 20" wheel Q-bike I use slightly shorter cranks mostly for that reason since it's high enough geared for normal purposes (92").

As you say, the better folders often have good clearances anyway, it's mostly the cheaper Chinese stuff that doesn't, and that includes many folding e-bikes. Since they often have 170/175 mm cranks, there's plenty of scope to gain an inch or so and still have sensible length cranks.
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